Ladbrokes Trophy (aka Hennessy Gold Cup)

[Bayoffreedom]

Where are they found when they're released?

They should be on the Racing Post site by 2pm - just click on racecards and then big race entries, . I wouldn't be surprised to see a link on Irishracing.com. The other option is to go to Timeform.com (they post quicker than Racing Post normally), search for a horse you know is entered and then click on entries and then the Ladbroke.

[Garrison Savannah]

Weights are out on Thursday.

Where are they found when they're released?

[Bayoffreedom]

Weights are out on Thursday. It will be interesting to see what the Irish horses get (particularly Total Recall). A few years ago you could add 4-5 pounds to their Irish rating but that hasn't been the case recently; with many running off their Irish marks (although the handicapper does throw in the odd 'head scratcher')

[Faugheen_Machine]

Same two as me Jono and I don't think I'll add a third.

[jono]

Took some 20's straight after as well. Thought that was as good a prep as you could have asked for. Tanked through the race travelling lovely. American would still be my main fancy in this but Singlefarmpayment is a massive player and i'm very happy to have both covered.

Current bets on the race:

American 16/1 1pt EW
American 8/1 1pt Win

Singlefarmpayment 20/1 0.5pt EW
Singlefarmpayment 20/1 1pt Win

[BigChaang]

Yes ,On i.t.v Trainer said hennessy definitely the target , and needed this run to get him ready .

[Faugheen_Machine]

A great Hennessy prep by Singlefarmpayment. I've added him each way at 20/1.

Heskin basically said that he wasn't fit and would improve for the run.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Singlefarmpayment is declared tomorrow. I'm not sure what to make of it to be honest. An impressive victory and he'd probably blow his chance of winning the Hennessy.

[Kevloaf]

Certainly a good angle in to a bet.

IF he won, the confidence they'd be showing would mean he'd win the Hennessey ergo become a gold cup contender? Treble figures on that might tempt me ... If he's travelling well haha

[jono]

I could definitely see him (American) going for and following up in the Welsh National.

Personally, I think he's an absolute certainty for the Hennessy (Ladbrokes Trophy)

I hadn't checked his odds recently so to see he has come into 8/1 is rather pleasing. I'm confident, though not quite as confident as you Faugheen Singlefarmpayment is the horse that could be the fly in the ointment for me...

He's jocked up and due to run at Cheltenham in the opener on Saturday. I can't believe they'd ruin such an attractive mark for the Hennessy so would be amazed if he were to win or run well. A 'below par' run on Saturday and i'll certainly be taking the 20/1 on offer for the race. Latest from the trainer:

"Singlefarmpayment is entered at Cheltenham on Saturday and it is possible he will start off there, although nothing is concrete at this stage," revealed George.

"He came back from his summer break looking good and we are happy with him at the moment. We said we will take each step as it comes this season, depending on how the horse is, and see where we go.

"He progressed well last season and it will be interesting to see if he can carry that on this season."

[Kevloaf]

I know they've mentioned the Welsh National for him as a "long term possibility" .... and you'd imagine he'd have top weight...but that didn't hold Native River back?

I think he'd win the Welsh National

[Faugheen_Machine]

Hennessey, followed by the Welsh National or Denman chase for American? He's very ground dependant and I just wonder if they'd take their chance at Chepstow if he ran well at Newbury.

Personally, I think he's an absolute certainty for the Hennessy (Ladbrokes Trophy)

[Garrison Savannah]

Great news !

[Kevloaf]

Harry Fry on AMERICAN

He was another one who thrived last year and won three out of three over fences. He is an exciting second season chaser we are targeting at the Ladbroke Gold Cup at Newbury and hopefull he has the right profile for the race and the track should suit him. He gallops and jumps for fun and he is unlikely to run beforehand as he is so fragile so he will have to be on his “A” game on the day. We will decide after that where we go for the rest of the season.

[Bayoffreedom]

BOF, that suggests there are issues with the Irish calendar....

I think it's a major issue. In fact the only 3m open handicaps between January and the end of the season are the Thyestes and the Leinster National (Sunday before Cheltenham). You also have the National Trial (over 3m 4f) and the Irish Grand National (3m5f) but they are much longer trips and you have to be rated around 140 to get into the latter. It's no wonder that the Thyestes is contested by top class horses. If you're rated in the high 140's or higher you're almost forced to go for it or run in a Graded race when you may well come up against Gold Cup calibre horses and there are only two of those before Cheltenham: the Irish Gold Cup(Leopardstown) and the Bobby Jo at Fairyhouse (Grade 3)