2017 Grand National

[Faugheen_Machine]

So far I've got Highland Lodge 40/1, CoC 40/1, Perfect Candidate 100/1.

Two non runners in Don Poli and Gallant Oscar.

I'm amazed Highland Lodge still available at 40/1 given his course form.

[BigChaang]

Just thinking this fest win probably not going to have taken as much out of him as other festival wins would have?

That is INCREDIBLE LR! .... cracking bets. Very brave

I got a few of these Chelt /G,N bets ,inc- B.dair ,u.d.s , b.de mai *!!, running on to Ucello conti at 33's ,

[BigChaang]

Was going to have a bet today on Def red, Istabraq. and can't decide between Bishops rd or Goodtoknow ?.

[ComplyOrDie]

A 7 year old as favourite is the bookmakers way of ripping off punters for this years Grand National.

Andddd he's been pulled out of the race, not surprised one bit.

[loveracing]

Just pressed some Perfect Candidate and had some 66/1 Bishops Road NRNB.
The latter sneaks in down the bottom and has run well against some good yardsticks this year, notably Bristol de Mai, Otago Train and Definitely Red giving weight to them all, gets in 7lb lower than his opening season mark....

Great minds Ista - I had BR in with a double the other day but he fell at the last, so I had to back him singly.

So far I have the following...

Singles:-
Ucello Conti - 33/1
Foxrock - 50/1
Highland Lodge - 50/1
Perfect Candidate 50/1
Bishops Road - 66/1

Doubles with USD@ 7/2
Bless The Wings 100/1
Ballynagour 80/1
Maggio 50/1
Vicente 25/1
Just A Par 40/1
Cause Of Causes 33/1
Rogue Angel 40/1
Perfect Candidate 40/1

Others:-
Cause Of Causes 8/1 & Ucello Conti 20/1

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http://www.oddschecker.com/tips/horse-racing/grand-national/20170321-how-to-find-the-2017-grand-national-winner

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Who will be the last horse to get into the national? Bless the Wings is number 49 but would be no 100/1 shot of making the line up.

LR - i see he's one of yours.

[Istabraq]

Many of these have Irish National entries too, I'd say that those who went to Cheltenham as triers are more likely to be held over for Fairyhouse.
You'll always get one or two nervous trainers who aren't sure whether they'll get in who take the Topham option just in case so 49 has every chance of making the cut...

[mayo]

Jock em up lads

49 normally gets in I think

[robith]

Obviously it's possible to get lost in the trends but a Q

Placing in the national last year seems to be the kiss of death, but I can't find anything on finishers/unplaced runners.

Basically trying to figure out if you want a horse that is totally new or not

[ComplyOrDie]

Obviously it's possible to get lost in the trends but a Q

Placing in the national last year seems to be the kiss of death, but I can't find anything on finishers/unplaced runners.

Basically trying to figure out if you want a horse that is totally new or not

I haven't gone way back, but here's what I have found:

2010 - Don't Push It (Won), Black Apalachi (2nd), State Of Play (3rd), Big Fella Thanks (4th), Hello Bud (5th).

2011 - Ballabriggs, Oscar Time, Don't Push It (3rd), State Of Play (4th), Niche Market. Big Fella Thanks finished 7th and Hello Bud was pulled up, the other did not run.

2012 - Neptune Collonges, Sunnyhillboy, Seabass, Cappa Bleu, In Compliance. Ballabriggs finished 6th, Hello Bud 7th, the others did not run.

2013 - Aurora's Encore, Cappa Bleu (2nd), Teaforthree, Oscar Time (4th), Rare Bob. Seabass finished 13th, Big Fella Thanks & Sunnyhillboy U/R & Ballabriggs P/U, the others did not run.

2014 - Pineau De Re, Balthazar King, Double Seven, Alvarado, Rocky Creek. Teaforthree U/R, the others did not run.

2015 - Many Clouds, Saint Are, Monbeg Dude, Alvarado (4th), Shutthefrontdoor. Pineau De Re 12th, Oscar Time 15th & Balthazar King fell, the others did not run.

2016 - Rule The World, The Last Samuri, Vics Canvas, Gilgamboa, Goonyella. Shutthefrontdoor 9th, Many Clouds 16th & Saint Are P/U, the others did not run.

Hope this gives a little insight.

[robith]

Blimey thank you CoD!

[ComplyOrDie]

Amazingly, none of Ballabriggs, Neptune Collonges, Auroras Encore or Rule The World had any Aintree Chase experience at all before winning their respective races. Pineau De Re had only fallen at the course over fences but had not completed a race there either before winning it.

Only Don't Push It had won at the course (chasing), prior to winning the race.

Looking solely at the past 7 years it doesn't bode well for horses returning to the race as win prospects, but there is always a time for a change

[loveracing]

My updated bets.

Singles:-
Ucello Conti - 33/1
Foxrock - 50/1
Highland Lodge - 50/1
Perfect Candidate 50/1
Bishops Road - 66/1

Doubles with USD@ 7/2
Bless The Wings 100/1
Ballynagour 80/1
Maggio 50/1
Vicente 25/1
Just A Par 40/1
Cause Of Causes 33/1
Rogue Angel 40/1
Perfect Candidate 40/1

Others:-
8/1 win & Ucello Conti 20/1
10/3 win & Thunder And Roses 25/1
5/2 win & Raz De Maree 40/1 x2
5/2 win & The Young Master 20/1 x2
5/2 win & Measureofmydreams 50/1
5/2 win & Highland Lodge 33/1 x2
5/1 win & Wonderful Charm 66/1

[Faugheen_Machine]

That's some list LR - who is your best result?