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2024 Antepost Flat Racing

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  • #17
    Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
    Is someone able to some up the quotes in here at all?

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/irel...-aWLmZ7D91Khu/
    I can't access the members only link but the trainer was interviewed after the race and said this:

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    • #18
      Bit of a reach but I saw a special for dettori to ride the winner of the kentucky derby at 16/1, he'll end up being on a baffert horse most likely and he has a really nice crop of 2 year olds right now, no way will his mount be that price if a few train on, mainly muth and Prince of monaco. Heartland too but hasn't been seen for a while

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      • #19
        Ylang Ylang wins the Fillies Mile. Still looks like she needs a step up in trip now.

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        • #20
          They might as well pay out on City of Troy for the guineas already, blimey.

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          • #21
            Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
            They might as well pay out on City of Troy for the guineas already, blimey.
            Could end up having a very similar campaign to sea the stars imo

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            • #22
              Think Big Rock is a good e/w bet at 10s for the QEII… stiff heavy ground mile is what he wants and with doubts over the participation of some of his opposition, reckon he’ll be hard to get past… could be a good day for the French!

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              • #23
                Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
                They might as well pay out on City of Troy for the guineas already, blimey.
                If you like him probably an idea to back him with PP. They may pay out early.
                Last edited by Lobos; 18 October 2023, 10:09 AM.

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                • #24
                  Don't know if Point Lonsdale is an intended runner in the Champion Stakes but I've gone through their form and he looks the only one who will appreciate a swamp. Every time he's encountered soft or Heavy ground he's won easily. If there are just 5/6 runners he may run into a place.

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                  • #25
                    Originally posted by Morley Street View Post
                    Think Big Rock is a good e/w bet at 10s for the QEII… stiff heavy ground mile is what he wants and with doubts over the participation of some of his opposition, reckon he’ll be hard to get past… could be a good day for the French!

                    It's the wrong year but... I was looking at him again despite recently saying he was overrated. I read that they'd planned to ride him differently though, I assume not from the front. And wasn't completely convinced that'd suit or is often that successful with horses that get used to front running. So I didn't bother having the bet.

                    Probably wins now
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                    • #26
                      Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post


                      It's the wrong year but... I was looking at him again despite recently saying he was overrated. I read that they'd planned to ride him differently though, I assume not from the front. And wasn't completely convinced that'd suit or is often that successful with horses that get used to front running. So I didn't bother having the bet.

                      Probably wins now
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                      I would be concerned if they ride him differently Benjy as I think it’s his gallop that gets others out of their comfort zone… on balance tho I think he’s worth another go… he hasn’t had his ground in his last 3 starts and still only found one too good… two of which are arguably the best in their division… on heavy I feel he’s lengths better

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                      • #27
                        Originally posted by Morley Street View Post

                        I would be concerned if they ride him differently Benjy as I think it’s his gallop that gets others out of their comfort zone… on balance tho I think he’s worth another go… he hasn’t had his ground in his last 3 starts and still only found one too good… two of which are arguably the best in their division… on heavy I feel he’s lengths better
                        “He always shows a lot of cardio and he can exhaust a lot of horses during the race with his pace, but the thing with going in front like he does is that there’s always a horse behind you who might beat you with a kick in the end. That’s what’s happened in his three Group 1s, and so we’ll talk with the owner and you might see something different. With the season he’s had we’ve been working him accordingly since his last run.”

                        That's the quote I read from Christopher Head. If you were interested.
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                        • #28
                          Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                          “He always shows a lot of cardio and he can exhaust a lot of horses during the race with his pace, but the thing with going in front like he does is that there’s always a horse behind you who might beat you with a kick in the end. That’s what’s happened in his three Group 1s, and so we’ll talk with the owner and you might see something different. With the season he’s had we’ve been working him accordingly since his last run.”

                          That's the quote I read from Christopher Head. If you were interested.
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                          Thanks Benjy that’s interesting…. hopefully they’ll revert to plan A once they see the make up of the race

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                          • #29
                            Well played Morley Street

                            Head has proper put me away there

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                            • #30
                              Originally posted by Morley Street View Post

                              I would be concerned if they ride him differently Benjy as I think it’s his gallop that gets others out of their comfort zone… on balance tho I think he’s worth another go… he hasn’t had his ground in his last 3 starts and still only found one too good… two of which are arguably the best in their division… on heavy I feel he’s lengths better
                              Christopher Head obviously read your quote MS

                              He drove them into the ground!

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