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    One of my favourite weekends of the year and the markets are now beginning to take shape. Sax has already put forward a live one for the Mile and I like many others on here have helped myself to the 20s available on MOTS.

    You often get a big disparity in prices between bookies at this time and value can be had, so let’s get some discussion going.

    Out of the juvenile performances I’ve seen so far, the filly, Tamara has impressed me the most and she looks a solid fav for the Fillys race.

    Echo Zulu 5/2 for the Fillys & Mares sprint looks a standout and i also like Geaux Rocket Ride e/w in the Classic.

  • #2
    Took 16s for Warm Heart to win the F&M Turf around the time of her Yorkshire Oaks victory, theres still some 9/2 available and I'd say theres still some juice in that price. The track and ground is absolutely made for her and aslong as she gets a decent position, I don't see her beat. Looking at likely opponents, Nashwa is heading to Ascot for her 'end game' which sounds doubtful for a US bid, Tahiyra's participation depends on whether she will stay in training next year (both the trainer and jockey seem hopeful she can) which casts a doubt on her turning up, Emily Upjohn is as inconsistent as anything and you'd be taking a chance of which one will turn up, BRC likely to end her season at Longchamp in the Opera and then you're getting down to the likes of Via sistina who wont be turning up on that sort of ground.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by darlojim View Post
      Took 16s for Warm Heart to win the F&M Turf around the time of her Yorkshire Oaks victory, theres still some 9/2 available and I'd say theres still some juice in that price. The track and ground is absolutely made for her and aslong as she gets a decent position, I don't see her beat. Looking at likely opponents, Nashwa is heading to Ascot for her 'end game' which sounds doubtful for a US bid, Tahiyra's participation depends on whether she will stay in training next year (both the trainer and jockey seem hopeful she can) which casts a doubt on her turning up, Emily Upjohn is as inconsistent as anything and you'd be taking a chance of which one will turn up, BRC likely to end her season at Longchamp in the Opera and then you're getting down to the likes of Via sistina who wont be turning up on that sort of ground.
      You’re sitting on a great price there Jim!

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      • #4
        Tamara looks NAP material utterly devastating performance LTO

        My bets so far

        Tamara 2/1 - Juvenile Fillies
        Prince Of Monaco 4/1 - Juvenile
        Gunite 7/1 - Sprint
        Arabian Knight 12/1 - Classic
        Master of the seas 20/1 - Mile

        I have my eye on

        Heartland - Juvenile

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        • #5
          I struggle to get into the dirt races but quiet enjoy the European challengers for the turf contests.
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          16s a nice price on Warm Heart but as you say, what they do with Tahirya could be key to that! I'll be onboard even at short price if Tahirya doesn't turn up.

          Master of the Seas a lot are on thanks to Sax and will have a good chance if making it in one piece. Fancy that race to cut up a bit and plenty of negatives for his market rivals imo.

          Turf sprint will be interesting, to see what runs. They're taking it very seriously with Live the Dream. Read he's having a prep over further just to get some experience from the gates. Think he's actually an interesting contender but wonder if he might drift to a nice price if beaten in the prep, as they seem to be suggesting he probably will be.

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          • #6
            SONGLINE @ 7/1 Breeders' Cup Mile

            Taking the odds before her race on Sunday

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            • #7
              Big weekend ahead for some BC hopes… particularly interested in Todd Pletcher’s 2 juveniles… Fierceness in the Champagne and Locked in the Futurity

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              • #8
                I've backed Fierceness 10/1 for the Juvenile ahead of his second start this weekend. Very impressive on debut in the slop and this step up to mile will pose no problems, has a couple of decent rivals to dispatch but I'd be hopeful he can with minimal fuss and a relatively comfortable win would see him cut and disputing favourtism.

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                • #9
                  MUTH @ 16/1 e/w Breeders' Cup Juvenile

                  Going for the horses for courses approach here.
                  Muth dazzled on debut at Santa Anita then was disappointing LTO. However, he's flying in the mornings atm at SA and I'm hoping he can find that debut form in the American Pharoah on Saturday then onto the BC.

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                  • #10
                    Master of the Seas turned over in the keeneland mile

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                      Master of the Seas turned over in the keeneland mile
                      Not surprised, up to the mark very solid horse, wasn't 100% either according to pletcher

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by parimutuel View Post
                        MUTH @ 16/1 e/w Breeders' Cup Juvenile

                        Going for the horses for courses approach here.
                        Muth dazzled on debut at Santa Anita then was disappointing LTO. However, he's flying in the mornings atm at SA and I'm hoping he can find that debut form in the American Pharoah on Saturday then onto the BC.
                        Very impressed and sky are still sleeping, I've had more on. Baffert has some nice ones for next year

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                        • #13
                          Had hoped Live In The Dream would've drifted a bit more after that defeat but I reckon that's a decent enough trial. 10s is probably fair enough though. No chance Kinross runs in the sprint imo. Unless it turned heavy or something, in which case I might as well chuck everything in the bin anyway

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

                            Very impressed and sky are still sleeping, I've had more on. Baffert has some nice ones for next year
                            Nice one Zach, caught them napping

                            Prince Of Monaco out to 9/2 so taken a saver on him.

                            He has and a barn full of ​​​unraced potential too.
                            Last edited by parimutuel; 8 October 2023, 09:37 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Morley Street View Post
                              Big weekend ahead for some BC hopes… particularly interested in Todd Pletcher’s 2 juveniles… Fierceness in the Champagne and Locked in the Futurity
                              Locked ran well last night MS another tough Gun Runner

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