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2023 Antepost Flat Racing

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
    Statuette in the 1000 guineas I like, god knows if she'll show up though as she wasnt seen for months in the latter end of last season
    Aidan gave her the rest of the season off as she's a big filly. Didn't want to over train her.



    Some quotes from a few months back.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
      With Cheltenham done I know the majority it seems aren't interested but I do also enjoy the flat.

      How are people seeing this season play out?

      I'm all over Tahiyra wherever she goes personally.

      Little Big Bear and Noble Style look the quickest horses for the guineas, but will they stay?

      Always an unknown or their growth from 2 to 3.
      2,000 is obviously looking very competitive but I prefer to back those I know will stay a mile. I have Auguste Rodin backed antepost but another I have my eye on that looks very classy is Sakheer.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
        With Cheltenham done I know the majority it seems aren't interested but I do also enjoy the flat.

        How are people seeing this season play out?

        I'm all over Tahiyra wherever she goes personally.

        Little Big Bear and Noble Style look the quickest horses for the guineas, but will they stay?

        Always an unknown or their growth from 2 to 3.
        No bets placed yet, I'm waiting to get my copy of Ahead on the Flat in April and have a read of that first. Really want to see Tahiyra train on though, not sure I'd be putting money down on her appearing at the English guineas just yet but would be great to see her win the Arc later in the year

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        • #34
          Originally posted by That Horse View Post

          No bets placed yet, I'm waiting to get my copy of Ahead on the Flat in April and have a read of that first. Really want to see Tahiyra train on though, not sure I'd be putting money down on her appearing at the English guineas just yet but would be great to see her win the Arc later in the year
          If she is as good as I hope then 3 year old allowance and fillies allowance for the Arc then sign me up.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post

            2,000 is obviously looking very competitive but I prefer to back those I know will stay a mile. I have Auguste Rodin backed antepost but another I have my eye on that looks very classy is Sakheer.
            I'd add sakheer to the very doubtful stayers list he looked all speed

            Not certain to train on either being by zoffany

            The 3 certain to stay the mile strongly near the top of the betting look to be auguste rodin, chaldean and nostrum

            Nostrum looked a big backward 2 yo whereas chaldean looked a smaller more professional type but being by frankel should train on well

            The only problem is the run of royal Scotsmen makes me wonder how strong that dewhurst actually was

            im struggling to really commit to anything for the guineas. Auguste Rodin looks made for the derby though. May run a similar race to luxembourg in the guineas. He may need soft ground to make the race a stern test.

            if I was pushed I think I'd go for chaldean who is having a prep run in the greenham and will likely be ridden by frankie and who wouldn't put it past dettori to win the guineas in his final season.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post

              If she is as good as I hope then 3 year old allowance and fillies allowance for the Arc then sign me up.
              She looked to have a very nice turn of pace, a bit like her half sister had.

              I'd worry about her getting home in the Arc which has been a real strong stamina test in recent years

              The ground scuppered me with both tarnawa and vadeni in the last 2 years, both would surely have won on better ground.

              Al hakeem has a very similar profile to sotsass, both by siyouni out of galileo mares, and he comes into his 4yo campaign on the back of a very solid 4th in the Arc

              I could see him taking a step forward and becoming a real threat this year and with rouget you know he will be trained to peak all year with the Arc in mind.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                She looked to have a very nice turn of pace, a bit like her half sister had.

                I'd worry about her getting home in the Arc which has been a real strong stamina test in recent years

                The ground scuppered me with both tarnawa and vadeni in the last 2 years, both would surely have won on better ground.

                Al hakeem has a very similar profile to sotsass, both by siyouni out of galileo mares, and he comes into his 4yo campaign on the back of a very solid 4th in the Arc

                I could see him taking a step forward and becoming a real threat this year and with rouget you know he will be trained to peak all year with the Arc in mind.
                Tarnawa didn't lose by far though.

                The ground always seems to go like that, sods law you bet like it will and then it won't .

                Was on Al Hakeem last season for it, I do like him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                  I'd add sakheer to the very doubtful stayers list he looked all speed

                  Not certain to train on either being by zoffany

                  The 3 certain to stay the mile strongly near the top of the betting look to be auguste rodin, chaldean and nostrum

                  Nostrum looked a big backward 2 yo whereas chaldean looked a smaller more professional type but being by frankel should train on well

                  The only problem is the run of royal Scotsmen makes me wonder how strong that dewhurst actually was

                  im struggling to really commit to anything for the guineas. Auguste Rodin looks made for the derby though. May run a similar race to luxembourg in the guineas. He may need soft ground to make the race a stern test.

                  if I was pushed I think I'd go for chaldean who is having a prep run in the greenham and will likely be ridden by frankie and who wouldn't put it past dettori to win the guineas in his final season.
                  I agree on sakheer, he may be one for the commonwealth Cup or whatever its called at Royal Ascot

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

                    I agree on sakheer, he may be one for the commonwealth Cup or whatever its called at Royal Ascot
                    The commonwealth cup could be better than the guineas and Derby this year if little big bear, noble style and sakheer all line up

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                    • #40
                      Cairo runs in the UAE Derby Saturday for Aidan best priced 3/1 and is one I'll be backing and using in a few rollups. Not ran on the dirt before but his sire sure did and he's been in good form and won going away last time out so if he takes to the dirt as expected he should hopefully relish the extra furlong. Drawn in 5 Ryan should be able to get a good position up the rail and get him settled into a rhythm up with pace before angling off the home turn to power clear in the final furlongs

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Monty's Pass View Post
                        Cairo runs in the UAE Derby Saturday for Aidan best priced 3/1 and is one I'll be backing and using in a few rollups. Not ran on the dirt before but his sire sure did and he's been in good form and won going away last time out so if he takes to the dirt as expected he should hopefully relish the extra furlong. Drawn in 5 Ryan should be able to get a good position up the rail and get him settled into a rhythm up with pace before angling off the home turn to power clear in the final furlongs
                        I think if he wins theyre going to have a go in the kentucky derby

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

                          I think if he wins theyre going to have a go in the kentucky derby
                          Yeah for sure although he'd be well up against it VS the Americans, not sure who'd ride too being guineas weekend and all.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Monty's Pass View Post

                            Yeah for sure although he'd be well up against it VS the Americans, not sure who'd ride too being guineas weekend and all.
                            When they had mendelsson ryan went over I think

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Monty's Pass View Post

                              Yeah for sure although he'd be well up against it VS the Americans, not sure who'd ride too being guineas weekend and all.
                              I'd imagine he will be up against it against all the Japanese and UAE horses too on Saturday

                              Far cry from dundalk

                              Though I think aidan won the race with mendelsson didn't he

                              But he had finished 2nd in the dewhurst and won the breeders cup juvenile turf

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                                I'd imagine he will be up against it against all the Japanese and UAE horses too on Saturday

                                Far cry from dundalk

                                Though I think aidan won the race with mendelsson didn't he

                                But he had finished 2nd in the dewhurst and won the breeders cup juvenile turf
                                Yeah you're not wrong it's by no means a penalty kick any skinnier and I wouldn't have played but I think 3's is ok and although he hasn't shown the same level of form as Mendelsson had he is on an upward curve and comes with a big chance imo especially if they think the Kentucky Derby is the target he needs to finish in the first two to get in so they must have faith in a big run.

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