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She's ridiculous mate! If she isn't odds on when the market comes back for the distaff im getting more on -
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Got 6/4 on sky, mental value wish we could have odds like this for cheltenhamOriginally posted by Morley Street View PostComment
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Looks like she's been taken out, unlucky. ATC taken out as well, so that race is cutting up a bit.Originally posted by Appreciate It View Post
Kyprios out of the stayers and a bit of rain about, so could see Trueshan going off short enough there.
Will have a proper look through when RP actually bother to update the cards.Comment
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I hope you’ve seen a different forecast than me because I’ve been backing Trueshan for best part of 4 months hoping for his ideal conditions and bar maybe a light shower Thursday afternoon it’s not looking like anymore. Got a gut wrenching feeling that he’ll be pulled before Saturday and kept for France. Hopefully if they water the course over the coming days they forget to turn it offOriginally posted by Benjy23 View PostComment
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Unfortunately I've not looked at any forecast and was just going for the fact it was raining as I typed thatOriginally posted by BookieBasher View Post
Apologies. Was waiting for cards before having a proper look at the racing in general, including weather forecasts.
Maybe he won't be going off short in that case! And maybe that's an antepost angle to look elsewhere...Comment
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On the turf trap forecast they have had 4mm over night and another 9-13mm forecasted Thursday and Friday. Surely good to soft he still goes ?Originally posted by BookieBasher View PostComment
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After his last run would you back him regardless of the groundOriginally posted by 7barrows View Post
It's reasonably likely that running him at goodwood has had a significant negative impact on him
He simply didn't seem the horse he was last timeComment
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Yes agree although he’s hardly going to need a career best to win he could run to the same RPR of his last run and that could still be enough win, so yes I probably would and Certainly at 9/4 (although I will defo wait for final decs and let the 9/4 go because AK comments are concerning). I think Saturday will be good to soft on a strip of ground that’s been unraced all season so If Alan king doesn’t run trueshan on unraced goood to soft it’s ludicrous.Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
On a seperate note, I can’t get away from Art power in the sprint cup, he’s a fresh horse this season and campaigned for the autumn with his career best RPR last race which is the same prep as last season. He came from the wing to place last year and has to represent some value at 8s with the likes of Rohan half the price. He’s a horse I’ve followed since a three year old, (perhaps some what of cliff horse in group 1 company however I strongly feel Saturday his best chance of getting that group 1) he’ll be hoping for some rain too!Last edited by 7barrows; 11 October 2022, 07:54 AM.Comment
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Aye, I'm not keen to back Trueshan either after that but it looks potentially a very poor renewal and on that basis he's not actually as short as I'd expect at the moment. Coltrane getting smashed by Quickthorn puts me off him being good enough, even with that upset of Trueshan, and Quickthorn's run in the Cadran is enough to put me off him. Princess Zoe another who's effort there I'd be concerned with backing up.
The 3yos are towards the top of the market, and have a pretty poor record in this race? Gone back through the last few years and there was a few relatively fancied and the likes of Strad who was beaten as a 3yo before winning it as an older horse. Waterville was impressive last time out but it's a big step from handicap to Group 1, even a weak looking one. Think the price on him has gone now. Eldar Eldarov won a very weak looking leger (at the moment) but at least that gives him Group 1 form on paper. He's not a definite runner though, and is also short enough - given the 3yo records.
Which basically bring me onto the outsiders and the only slightly interesting one I can find is Raise You? Not even sure he's a definite runner and would really highlight how poor this renewal is as a 6yo that's never even placed in a Group 1 or 2 but... Seems to be improving when being stepped up in trip, and with age. Won a group 3 on first try over 1m 6f, beating Search for a Song comfortably. He's run a 111 RPR there, only 2lb below Trueshan and Coltrane's performance LTO and has actually ran a 117 RPR this season. Doesn't give him all that much to find with most of these, other than peak Trueshan. Was held up too far back and never really got involved in the Irish Leger last time, although was staying on at the finish suggesting an extra 2 furlong isn't an issue, and there's nothing in the sort of Kyprios quality/form coming here. Almost tempted with a speculative each way
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He's like the beat the bank of sprint horsesOriginally posted by 7barrows View Post
I do like him though and if kinross doesn't run which I'm hoping he won't see him as the main danger to my creative force antepost bet, who looks a bit on the short side now.
Tenebrism at 6f would also be interestingComment
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I’m a sucker for a rags to riches story but at 16/1 this one could be being underestimatedComment
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Followed you in blindly after reading that, thanks.Originally posted by parimutuel View Post
was expecting to see wild celebrations in this thread when I logged in but it seems like not many others might have backed it unfortunately.Comment
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