"We don't know where he's going and we'll wait until the last minute," he said on Monday. "We would prefer to go to Newmarket as the July Cup is a bit more prestigious, but there's the alternative of the Prix Jean Prat on Sunday.
"He's working tomorrow and we're leaving it all to Richard as he gets it right. It depends on the rain and how much water they're going to put on at Newmarket. He really wants easier ground, which he'll probably get in Deauville."
perfect power sounding like a very unlikely runner in the July Cup
Have backed creative force at 5/1 with a saver on naval crown at 6/1
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Buick jocked up on Victory Dance for the Superlative Stakes this Saturday. Appleby has won this with some good ones. Little stab to get onside for the 2000 guineas.
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Alenquer is the bet for me in the Coral-Eclipse.
I backed for 3 places before final declarations, so I am feeling happy about this.
For me the recent form lines point to him as a solid bet. On a line through State Of Rest he has Bay Bridge covered, and that one is a 4/1 poke. I have doubts about Native Trail (first time out over the trip, couldn't back on this basis, at the price he is), Bay Bridge (as noted the form line, but also just seems to get going too late for me, think he'll be due a step up in trip at some point, maybe after this race), & Lord North (already covered on form).
Vadeni could, of course, be anything, although I'm not sure he beat the best Prix du Jockey Club field in history, and I'd like to see him do it again. I'm happy to let him win at the price he currently is.
Mishriff is interesting, he needs a serious bounce back to form, but he technically has Alenquer more than covered, based on their meet at York last August, IF he can bounce back. I've had a small E/W saver on him as well.
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Originally posted by Zachx02 View Postimo Native Trail is being overlooked, if it wasnt for him getting the worst draw in the guinea's he'd still be unbeaten
Coroebus just showed the better turn of foot
They were both drawn on a wing and the field came down the middle of the track
Both Real world and Stone Age not running now
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imo Native Trail is being overlooked, if it wasnt for him getting the worst draw in the guinea's he'd still be unbeaten
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I need to stop watching the prix du jockey club
I'm slowly convincing myself this Vadeni is an airplane
He absolutely dusted them with push button acceleration
For me the likeliest winners are him and bay bridge
Want to take on native trail who imo isn't improving as much as he needs to be
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Eclipse looking like it's going to have 6 or 7 runners. Having a little stab each way on Real World at 8's with 3 places.
Update: cashed and he's out of the EclipseLast edited by HoldenTheReins; 29 June 2022, 12:32 PM.
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A/P Lucky 15 ...... 1.- Alenquer ..................... coral eclipse - 8-1. - 2/7/22. - u/p.
2.- Ropey Guest ............ bunbury cup - 14-1. - 9/7/22. - 2nd.
3.- Trueshan .............. goodwood cup - 11-4. - 26/7/22. - 3rd.
4.- Grand Glory ....... arc de triomphe - 50-1. - 2/10/22. - 5th.
I don't do many antepost bets on the flat . usually end up as N/R's ... but in for a penny .
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Added another today. 11/07/22. more in hope than Judgement. !!
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1.- Torquator Tasso .......................... arc de triomphe. - 25-1. - 3rd.
2.- Coltrane ...................................... melbourne cup . - 20-1. - N/R.
3.- Persian Force ............................... 2000 guineas . - 20-1.
4.- Desert Hero .................................. cazoo derby . - 33-1.
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if that lot roll in i'm buying a horse.
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18/07/22. 1 more.
1.- Baaeed ....................... sussex stakes gdwd. 2-5. - 1st..
2.- Torquator Tasso ................. arc de triomphe 25-1.- 3rd.
3.- Vauban .............................. melbourne cup 20-1.- N/R.
4.- Bravemansgame ............. king george chs. - 5-1.
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Saeed bin Suroor has confirmed Real World will run in the Eclipse. I think the 3 y/o form + weight allowance of Vadeni is the one to beat but I can't help thinking Real World is the value bet of the older horses and might be worth a go EW.
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I don't believe a word obrein says most of the time
He says his fast horses stay well and his slow horses are very fast
He is basically a salesman given who he works for
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Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
Aidan said she is doing it on ability at the moment and wasn't fully ready today, wants her for backend, Cheveley Park, Moyglare etc, will keep her and Meditate apart.
I agree with you though, step up to 7f next.
Justify could become an interesting stallion.
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Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View PostShe wasn't particularly impressive
Step up to 7f hopefully next time should say more
She races again at 6f it'd put me off a bit for a guineas
Aidan said she is doing it on ability at the moment and wasn't fully ready today, wants her for backend, Cheveley Park, Moyglare etc, will keep her and Meditate apart.
I agree with you though, step up to 7f next.
Justify could become an interesting stallion.
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She wasn't particularly impressive
Step up to 7f hopefully next time should say more
She races again at 6f it'd put me off a bit for a guineas
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10's for Statuette across the board for the 1000 after winning today.
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sorry - was the latter - disappointed in the context of the first one as similar enough at home
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