2022 Flat Racing Antepost thread

[FinalFurlong91]

That coronation Cup looks like a very poor renewal

[Zachx02]

That coronation Cup looks like a very poor renewal

Looks like a low end grade 2 on the face of it

[Lobos]

I'm not the greatest Flat fan but do watch the real quality meetings. Haven't seen such confidence coming from Stoute like he has for Derby fav Desert Crown. He's normally a proper pessimistic so and so. That in itself tells me he's something special.
The same sort of confidence is oozing from Frankie re Oaks fav Emily Uphohn. He's talking about her in same breath as Enable at the same stage of her career. Sounds like there's no point looking beyond those two as the winners.

[HoldenTheReins]

I'm not the greatest Flat fan but do watch the real quality meetings. Haven't seen such confidence coming from Stoute like he has for Derby fav Desert Crown. He's normally a proper pessimistic so and so. That in itself tells me he's something special.
The same sort of confidence is oozing from Frankie re Oaks fav Emily Uphohn. He's talking about her in same breath as Enable at the same stage of her career. Sounds like there's no point looking beyond those two as the winners.

Hopefully you're right. Been chipping away for EUJ for the Arc also with her allowances. Got EUJ backed but not deep on DC. Even got eyes on two for the guineas next year already God help me

[FinalFurlong91]

I'm not the greatest Flat fan but do watch the real quality meetings. Haven't seen such confidence coming from Stoute like he has for Derby fav Desert Crown. He's normally a proper pessimistic so and so. That in itself tells me he's something special.
The same sort of confidence is oozing from Frankie re Oaks fav Emily Uphohn. He's talking about her in same breath as Enable at the same stage of her career. Sounds like there's no point looking beyond those two as the winners.

Looks very much on the short side though desert crown

The oaks doesn't look a strong race and emily upjohn should take plenty of beating

[That Horse]

Don't like the jockey on Desert Crown though that's likely mitigated if DC is a machine.

Is this the last year a colt by Galileo can win the derby or did the sly old dog manage to get his leg over to produce a two year old for this season?

If it is his last batch this year, hoping Star of India or Changing of the Guard can do him proud at their odds.

[FinalFurlong91]

I'd imagine horses like Australia will start siring much better horses now that galileo isn't covering all the best broodmares

It'll be all the sons of galileo like them frankel, nathaniel etc

His influence definitely will carry on to be a huge influence despite his passing

[Lobos]

Hopefully you're right. Been chipping away for EUJ for the Arc also with her allowances. Got EUJ backed but not deep on DC. Even got eyes on two for the guineas next year already God help me

EUJ could be a great shout for Arc.

[FinalFurlong91]

EUJ could be a great shout for Arc.

I may be imagining this but I swear gosden said something about her not wanting the ground too soft

[HoldenTheReins]

I may be imagining this but I swear gosden said something about her not wanting the ground too soft

Haven't seen that but it wouldn't surprise me. Ground is always a problem at the Arc. That's my biggest concern.

[FinalFurlong91]

Haven't seen that but it wouldn't surprise me. Ground is always a problem at the Arc. That's my biggest concern.

"She'd be happy on good ground, but I hope we don't get torrential rain. That would be unfortunate, but good, good to soft would be fine, and she'd handle it rattling quick."

So you'd be hoping it doesn't get as soft as it has in recent years

I'm still a little bitter about last year, tarnawa was a shoe in on decent ground

The winner torquator tasso finished 6th of 7 in a german group 2 on sunday, literally none of his form puts him close to tarnawa or hurricane lane

[Lobos]

I may be imagining this but I swear gosden said something about her not wanting the ground too soft

Frankie said the ground was a lot more testing/hard work at York than was described but she was ultra impressive that day so who knows.

[HoldenTheReins]

"She'd be happy on good ground, but I hope we don't get torrential rain. That would be unfortunate, but good, good to soft would be fine, and she'd handle it rattling quick."

So you'd be hoping it doesn't get as soft as it has in recent years

I'm still a little bitter about last year, tarnawa was a shoe in on decent ground

The winner torquator tasso finished 6th of 7 in a german group 2 on sunday, literally none of his form puts him close to tarnawa or hurricane lane

Had Tarnawa also, love that horse.

[Lobos]

Frankie on Emily Uphohn at York......

“The ground is a lot deeper than you guys think. Everybody was struggling from four furlongs out and I kept her together and from two-and-a-half to the winning post, I didn’t see another horse.
“She won in good style by five and a half lengths – what more do you want? We never had any worries about staying a mile and a half.”

Dettori ranks Emily Upjohn favourably among his previous Oaks winners, adding: “She’s getting there. Enable won at Chester and at this stage she was probably on the same par.

“With every race this filly is improving, we’ve liked her since day one and I’m delighted – we can sleep nicely tonight!”

[FinalFurlong91]

Arc de triumphe

Vadeni 8/1
Al Hakeem 33/1

Pulled the trigger on Vadeni and just a small bet on Al Hakeem too

Thought Vadeni was just as impressive as Desert Crown was

given the dam side of his pedigree 1m4f should pose no problem and being French trained the rest of his season will surely be built around peaking for this

Al Hakeem but more of a hail mary but he was well backed today but lost any chance at the start, missing the break and ending up right at the back. He steamed home into 4th and I’m hopeful he wins nicely next time out and makes that look a massive price

Like his pedigree too being a siyouni out of a galileo mare like sotsass and st marks basilica