2022 Flat Racing Antepost thread

[YoungHustler]

Little Big Bear was amazing and he's now a strong fancy for me for next year's 2000 Guineas. I was heavily on Bradsell yesterday but LBB was in a different league, even if Bradsell had been on form. I'm only on LBB at 6s but think the 5s is still good value. I don't think he'll run in the Nunthorpe with the National Stakes probably being his next race and after he wins that, his price will be 2/1 and he'll be odds on IF he makes it to the 2000G. I just think the 5s is big compared to all the current strong favourites for Cheltenham next year, which for me, will revolve around either Energumene or Shsihkin winning the Champion Chase and GDC or APT winning the Gold Cup. I'm now chipping away at all the different permutations with these 4 horses to include LBB before his next race.

[Morley Street]

Little Big Bear was amazing and he's now a strong fancy for me for next year's 2000 Guineas. I was heavily on Bradsell yesterday but LBB was in a different league, even if Bradsell had been on form. I'm only on LBB at 6s but think the 5s is still good value. I don't think he'll run in the Nunthorpe with the National Stakes probably being his next race and after he wins that, his price will be 2/1 and he'll be odds on IF he makes it to the 2000G. I just think the 5s is big compared to all the current strong favourites for Cheltenham next year, which for me, will revolve around either Energumene or Shsihkin winning the Champion Chase and GDC or APT winning the Gold Cup. I'm now chipping away at all the different permutations with these 4 horses to include LBB before his next race.

Spine tingling wasn’t he…. Aidan seems to have his best crop of 2 year olds for some time and he’s definitely at the top of the tree… appears to have a freakish blend of speed and stamina with a very uncomplicated run style and demeanour. Agree that he looks the guineas winner and fortunately got on before yesterday though still rueing my ante-post Coventry bets!

[FinalFurlong91]

Il eat my hat if LBB stays a mile strongly enough to win a guineas

hes incredibly fast, fairly sprinted away from them yesterday

Be much more interested in him for the commonwealth cup

Gary obrein tried to force aidan to say he was a guineas horse in the post race interview but unusually he wouldn't say it

He even mentioned the Nunthorpe as a possibility, a long side the morny, middle park and dewhurst

He has a bit of stamina on the dam side but on all the track evidence we've seen he's very much his father's son

He will likely get 7f but that extra furlong in what will be a strongly run mile in the guineas will have his petrol gauge hitting red imo

We've also seen plenty early season 2yos like him not train on well enough and get overtaken by the late bloomers come the following may like air force blue, pinatubo and native trail

I hope he's a superstar sprinter, weve not had a gun 6f horse for a while

[FinalFurlong91]

I did have a bet the other day

Hills are a standout 3/1 on Vadeni to win the irish champion stakes so took that

Don't think baaeed or mishriff will run so can see him shortening

Also sounds like Luxembourg will run next Saturday in the Royal whip so be good to see him

[Morley Street]

Il eat my hat if LBB stays a mile strongly enough to win a guineas

hes incredibly fast, fairly sprinted away from them yesterday

Be much more interested in him for the commonwealth cup

Gary obrein tried to force aidan to say he was a guineas horse in the post race interview but unusually he wouldn't say it

He even mentioned the Nunthorpe as a possibility, a long side the morny, middle park and dewhurst

He has a bit of stamina on the dam side but on all the track evidence we've seen he's very much his father's son

He will likely get 7f but that extra furlong in what will be a strongly run mile in the guineas will have his petrol gauge hitting red imo

We've also seen plenty early season 2yos like him not train on well enough and get overtaken by the late bloomers come the following may like air force blue, pinatubo and native trail

I hope he's a superstar sprinter, weve not had a gun 6f horse for a while

I can see what you are saying FF but I think there’s plenty enough stamina on the Dam’s side… he reminds me of George Washington who also started out at 5 and won yesterday’s race equally as impressive before winning the Guineas… game of opinions tho

[FinalFurlong91]

I can see what you are saying FF but I think there’s plenty enough stamina on the Dam’s side… he reminds me of George Washington who also started out at 5 and won yesterday’s race equally as impressive before winning the Guineas… game of opinions tho

He reminds me of ten sovereigns

A very fast 2yo who went off fav for the guineas, didn't stay the trip, then hacked up in the July Cup

Also a son of no nay never out of a mare that stayed 1m4f

I made a promise to myself to stop backing fast early season 2yos for the 2000 & 1000 guineas iv been burnt enough times now. But knowing my luck LBB will be the freak that wins it and bolt up.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing Highbank run again for Charlie Appleby.

[Morley Street]

He reminds me of ten sovereigns

A very fast 2yo who went off fav for the guineas, didn't stay the trip, then hacked up in the July Cup

Also a son of no nay never out of a mare that stayed 1m4f

I made a promise to myself to stop backing fast early season 2yos for the 2000 & 1000 guineas iv been burnt enough times now. But knowing my luck LBB will be the freak that wins it and bolt up.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing Highbank run again for Charlie Appleby.

There’s certainly some very promising Kingman’s around right now… talking of which, I was at Newmarket a couple of weeks ago when Laurel made here belated debut… was very taken with how she travelled and hit the line hard and looking forward to see her step up in class… would love to see her take up her entry in the Sun Chariot.

[darlojim]

LBB targeting National Stakes next - Dave Yates

[Zachx02]

LBB targeting National Stakes next - Dave Yates

be excited to see which charlie sends over for it, both highbank and naval power look very good will be a good clash

[HoldenTheReins]

be excited to see which charlie sends over for it, both highbank and naval crown look very good will be a good clash

He normally sends his best over there. Victory Dance based on that he went to the superlative.

[FinalFurlong91]

be excited to see which charlie sends over for it, both highbank and naval power look very good will be a good clash

I would imagine highbank will run in the champagne stakes and if winning well the dewhurst. I can't see him being thrown straight into a group 1 so unless he runs very soon the national stakes comes too soon.

Naval power could go to the national stakes then I could see him being stepped up to a mile in the futurity.

[YoungHustler]

be excited to see which charlie sends over for it, both highbank and naval power look very good will be a good clash

I just don't think Appleby's 2 year olds are as good as in recent years. He ran his supposed best in the the Superlative Stakes and Victory Dance could only manage second. Naval Power was impressive lto but he beat Waiting All Night who had also been by the likes of Persian Force and Bradsell.

The form lines and numbers point to LBB being miles ahead of anything we've seen at the moment and I'm just glad Aiden has now confirmed his targets. From the RP:

O'Brien said: “We’re looking at the National Stakes with him next month, that’s the race we’ve had in mind for a while, and it’ll be on to the Guineas then hopefully.”

[FinalFurlong91]

I just don't think Appleby's 2 year olds are as good as in recent years. He ran his supposed best in the the Superlative Stakes and Victory Dance could only manage second. Naval Power was impressive lto but he beat Waiting All Night who had also been by the likes of Persian Force and Bradsell.

The form lines and numbers point to LBB being miles ahead of anything we've seen at the moment and I'm just glad Aiden has now confirmed his targets. From the RP:

O'Brien said: “We’re looking at the National Stakes with him next month, that’s the race we’ve had in mind for a while, and it’ll be on to the Guineas then hopefully.”

That's true but Appleby horses like naval power, highbank and noble style haven't run enough times to make any kind of conclusion yet

It's still very early in the season for 2yos, none of the guineas trials have been run yet

And LBB has strong stamina doubts and will need to hit the line hard over 7f to put those to rest. Even then if it's a small field national stakes which turns into a sprint he still won't have proven he will handle the stamina test of an end to end gallop in the guineas.

A year ago today I'd imagine point Lonsdale was guineas favourite and Coroebus hadn't even run.

The national stakes, dewhurst and vertem futirity will be the best indicators of how the 2yos stack up.

[Morley Street]

Inspiral @5s for the Jacques Le Marois looks big imo. Forgive her last time out ‘bounce’ and she’d be a 6/4 shot.

[parimutuel]

Frankie booked to ride Verry Elleegant in the Prix Jean Romanet at Deauville on August 21st.