2022 Flat Racing Antepost thread

[HoldenTheReins]

Promising debut there, something to work with. Took advantage of the 66/1 HTR it didn't last for long though.

Hopefully he can go on and emulate the impressive German Derby winner SAMMARCO who also started his career with a second.

Nibbled some up also. Must of been a trading error.

[FinalFurlong91]

Iv been sucked into backing far too many full brothers and full sisters of good horses over the years to part with any money at this stage

They are almost inevitably never as good

But at 66s I guess you don't need much on

[BigChaang]

I was thinking about some horses for the Arc de Triomphe ....
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State of Rest ..... Bay Bridge ..... Luxembourg ..... Alenquer .
Teona ..... Grand Glory .
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......... Penny for your thoughts / prospects for any of these ??.

[Morley Street]

I was thinking about some horses for the Arc de Triomphe ....
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State of Rest ..... Bay Bridge ..... Luxembourg ..... Alenquer .
Teona ..... Grand Glory .
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......... Penny for your thoughts / prospects for any of these ??.

I like the 3 year olds for the Arc this year BC so from your list would pick Luxembourg but clearly he has something to prove on his return. Nonetheless could see him being Aidan’s main dart for the race. Think most of the others that you mention are probably best over shorter and would think SoR would be defending his Cox plate rather than taking in the Arc? Haven’t heard any news on Teona for a while tbh, presume she’s had a setback?

[riccirich]

I was thinking about some horses for the Arc de Triomphe ....
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State of Rest ..... Bay Bridge ..... Luxembourg ..... Alenquer .
Teona ..... Grand Glory .
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......... Penny for your thoughts / prospects for any of these ??.

One who is missing from your list who I would definitely be having a look at is La petite coco.

seems to be a mare on the incline and has been racking up the wins since last season, beating Love at the Curragh at the end of last season before winning the pretty polly stakes on her seasonal debut a few weeks ago beating My astra.

What makes those wins even more impressive is im personally convinced that they were achieved over a trip short of her best. She needed every yard of 1m 2f to get up on the line to beat Love, and then looked like she was going to be picked up by My astra last time over the same trip before finding again in the last furlong hold on for the win.

The step up to 1m 4f would be right up her street imo, she has no issue with soft ground which is a big plus when backing for the arc, and the race has been earmarked by paddy twomey as a target, I think she’s still available at around 25/1 which looks very good to me.

[BigChaang]

Thank's Morley Street , riccirich , . I was particularly impressed with State of rest at ascot ,.
Like to keep him onside .,Wherever he run's..
............ La Petite Coco I will add to the List , Thanks riccirich ...

[Lobos]

I was thinking about some horses for the Arc de Triomphe ....
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State of Rest ..... Bay Bridge ..... Luxembourg ..... Alenquer .
Teona ..... Grand Glory .
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......... Penny for your thoughts / prospects for any of these ??.

Don't give up on Tuesday. AOB will have her primed for October.

[Zachx02]

I like l'astronome in the grand prix de paris tonight, potential arc contender if he does win available at 50s atm

[FinalFurlong91]

Desert crown ruled out of the King George

[Benjy23]

I'm not convinced the 3 year olds are actually better than the older horses in the King George. Is there any form that actually suggests this year's middle distance 3 year olds are particularly strong?

[FinalFurlong91]

I'm not convinced the 3 year olds are actually better than the older horses in the King George. Is there any form that actually suggests this year's middle distance 3 year olds are particularly strong?

Other than the eclipse its not really been tested at the highest level yet

Mishriff is better over 10f and doesn't seem at his best at ascot (needs flatter track like York and meydan?)
torquator tasso surely needs softer ground
Broome and pyledriver just don't look good enough

So the two 3yos have everything in their favour

Though I'm likely biased as I backed westover ante post and got lucky with desert crown getting pulled out

[Benjy23]

Fair play and interesting thoughts, agree with most of it. Thought Mishriff ran well in last year's renewal though. Although was behind the Derby winner then.

Pace angle the other question mark. Can see Broome or Pyledrive trying to steal it. But you're right they'd be disappointing quality winners.

Sounds like you've got a good price on the most likely winner though so you're well placed. I probably won't have a bet now to be honest because nothing is appealing to me that much.

TT actually the most interesting at the prices imo but you're right his worst form seems to be on good ground. And it's basically just the Arc form that stands out. Tarnawa

[FinalFurlong91]

Fair play and interesting thoughts, agree with most of it. Thought Mishriff ran well in last year's renewal though. Although was behind the Derby winner then.

Pace angle the other question mark. Can see Broome or Pyledrive trying to steal it. But you're right they'd be disappointing quality winners.

Sounds like you've got a good price on the most likely winner though so you're well placed. I probably won't have a bet now to be honest because nothing is appealing to me that much.

TT actually the most interesting at the prices imo but you're right his worst form seems to be on good ground. And it's basically just the Arc form that stands out. Tarnawa

Still pissed off about that Arc

Tarnawa would've won half the track on decent ground

Way I see the King George is Broome sets the pace with pyledriver and Westover sitting just off him ensuring he sets a good gallop

Then the two gosden horses sitting just off them

If they go slow and it turns into a sprint mishriff surely wins as he's definitely got the best turn of foot of these

If they go a good pace I can see Colin Keane picking it up nice and early from Broome on westover and using his long stride to gallop the rest into the ground up the stiff ascot finish

Should be an interesting race, I may have a saver on mishriff in case Ryan tries to stack them up on broome

[Lobos]

At this time of year the older horses still have an advantage over the 3yo's hence the WFA allowance. Older horses do have a very decent record in the King George. Broome exceeded expectations at RA and could do so again. An AOB/Ryan Moore horse at 20/1 in a 6 runner G1 field just jumps out of the page. Super race to watch though.

[Lobos]

Sounds very much like my fav flat horse Trueshan will run in the Goodwood Cup on Tuesday. Track has been watered extensively and thunderstorms are currently hitting the course. Fingers crossed the best Stayer in Europe will take his chance. If he does he'll surely go off favourite.