Prix de L'Arc de Triomphe 2020

[kinloch brae]

I agree bookies shouldn't feel obliged.
But not sure what the problem is.

Goodwill is goodwill.
And should always be welcomed

The problem is consistency. Where do you draw the line? It shouldn't be about some people being lucky and others not.

Horses can sustain fatal injuries on the gallops but not a sniff of a refund in those cases.

[Quevega]

I understand where you're coming from.

But surely it's better that some people get lucky, than none at all.
It's like refusing to give to a charity because you can't afford to give to them all.

Bookmakers make 'goodwill' gestures occasionally, and even though these will be made with a business edge to them. They should be welcomed.
Maybe on the occasions that they choose to do so, the funds should go to charity, not back to the punters.

Injured jockeys Fund or Horse welfare etc.

[Quevega]

Update on Zilpaterol.
Being a 100% synthetic substance I was surprised how this could be found in horse feed.
Now the manufacturer GAIN have said that they have NEVER EVER used the substance in any of their processes at any stage.

I'd assumed that they may have manufactured cattle feed that contains this and other feeds for other animals that did not. And somehow this had cross contaminated.

This fact makes it even more suspicious, as the recent positive tests on unnamed horses in France, clearly blamed the feed. Which is the first place you'd look (or blame) (or falsely blame).

With Coolmore doing their own private testing prior to any race, or travel to a race it makes the withdrawal of Love a little suspicious.

If GAIN can evidence that none of there feed ever left the warehouse with Zilpaterol in it, then they've got some explaining to do in some yards.

Varian & O'Brien in particular.

[Quevega]

Can anyone let me know what bookies do here if you get refunded. I'm intrigued, wasnt on any of them but could make a huge impact on my future investments and decison making especially with ante post betting!

Sky are refunding bets on O'brien runners.

[Lobos]

Sky are refunding bets on O'brien runners.

Fair play.

[Kevloaf]

Paddy have voided/refunded too.

[Lobos]

Hills have pushed Gold Trip out to 75-1 with boost - I've obviously got em running for cover.

So, chocs away....

Another 1pt each way Gold Trip at 75-1.

Convinced myself he's a better horse in testing conditions and heavy ground is more likely to throw up a shock result.

Who else remembers Jet Ski Lady sluicing through the mud to win The Oaks at 50-1?

Gold Trip doesn't even have to beat Enable - fourth place will do nicely.

That is some price. Think he'll finish top 4.

[Big Bucks]

Fair play paddy and Sky. I thought some may have held off until the result, example think twice if Enable won or not. But I think its gestures like this that keeps customers happy and better for them in the long haul.

[Kevloaf]

I am going to back Enable, heart over head bet, I want to be part of it if she wins.

[Quevega]

I am going to back Enable, heart over head bet, I want to be part of it if she wins.

I'm on her also, after mullins won the first 2 at tipperary.
even more on her if Sizing Pottsie wins (runs after her obviously)

[Kevloaf]

I'm on her also, after mullins won the first 2 at tipperary.
even more on her if Sizing Pottsie wins (runs after her obviously)

Yeah I had the double with Saint Roi when he went 8/11 too but didn't want to after time it haha.

Come on Frankie

[parimutuel]

Bonne Chance Fat Jockeys

[nortonscoin200]

Laid off 4pts Gold Trip finishing 1-4 at 4.1-1 to make it a free bet to win 130 points

[kinloch brae]

1 Enable
2 Sottsass
3 ?

Enable was fortunate two years ago, couldn't see off an ordinary field last year and it would be a real dent if she can't beat an even worse field this year.

[ryanh97]

Not many excuses there