The Derby 2020

[Kevloaf]

365 have pushed Amhran Na Bhfiann out to 100/1 (means The Soldier's Song if google is correct)

100/1 for a Coolmore horse in The Derby?
4 places?
BOG?
Buick booked, he's in good form.
17 runners now, 2 days to go?


He's a maiden still, but only beaten 3L by Tiger Moth who on his next run was 2nd by a Head in the Irish Derby.

If he improved as much as Tiger Moth did from first run this season, would being 3L worse than Santiago/Tiger Moth put him a 100/1 shot?

Loads of things need to go right and it's reliant on a magical unseen amount of improvement coming, but....

I'm going to have a 0.25pt e/w bet on....

Can't buy a mansion but at least the takeaway tonight is paid for

[Priceiskey]

Let the winner slip and there was no turning back. These Galileos though! Well done to FM for backing him.

[ComplyOrDie]

Serpentine looked very good at the curragh - might he get a nice front running ride and hold on for a place?

Fair play Thorne, think you may have been the first to stick him up, as for hold on for a place, I think that was an understatement

[Middle_Of_March]

Firstly, brilliant for you lads on Serpentine. Pleased for yous. Kept finding off the front and I bet the last two furlongs were a proper thrill for yous as it became clear they’d let him loose and he wasn’t stopping.

Secondly, cheers Kev for highlighting Armrhann Na Bfiann or whatever he’s called. I had no strong position on the race at any point but had the three I said earlier in the week of Armrann, Vatican and Russian Emporer each way. Really disappointed with Vatican who was my biggest of the three each ways. But I got out level so I’m pleased with that. And i wouldn’t have backed the 100/1 shot I doubt without your little write up earlier in the week.

Finally, wtf was that? If ever there was a race to show why the jumps shits all over flat racing.. there it is. Biggest flat race on the planet and they do that? Slow sectionals and then let the leader randomly have a twenty length lead swinging for home on the snaff. Baffling. Imagine that in a Cheltenham Golf Cup. It just wouldn’t happen.

[robith]

Firstly, brilliant for you lads on Serpentine. Pleased for yous. Kept finding off the front and I bet the last two furlongs were a proper thrill for yous as it became clear they’d let him loose and he wasn’t stopping.

Secondly, cheers Kev for highlighting Armrhann Na Bfiann or whatever he’s called. I had no strong position on the race at any point but had the three I said earlier in the week of Armrann, Vatican and Russian Emporer each way. Really disappointed with Vatican who was my biggest of the three each ways. But I got out level so I’m pleased with that. And i wouldn’t have backed the 100/1 shot I doubt without your little write up earlier in the week.

Finally, wtf was that? If ever there was a race to show why the jumps shits all over flat racing.. there it is. Biggest flat race on the planet and they do that? Slow sectionals and then let the leader randomly have a twenty length lead swinging for home on the snaff. Baffling. Imagine that in a Cheltenham Golf Cup. It just wouldn’t happen.

"Whatever he's called" smdh imagine if someone showed that kind of disrespect to God Save the Queen

[Middle_Of_March]

"Whatever he's called" smdh imagine if someone showed that kind of disrespect to God Save the Queen

I did actually mean the spelling. I made myself a strong odds on shot to have spelt it wrong there

[ryanh97]

"Whatever he's called" smdh imagine if someone showed that kind of disrespect to God Save the Queen

Not like an Irishmen has ever done that is it?

[robith]

Not like an Irishmen has ever done that is it?

Look, it's not our fault out of all the incredible songs written by English composers you chose a funeral dirge is it!

[Saxon Warrior]

We have a similar list Q.
As usual for me everything looks a danger on the eve of these races, but hopefully I can celebrate a win from somewhere among them.


English King 1pt 20/1 (+ 0.33pt place)
Kameko 0.66pt @ 21.5/1 (0.66pt double with winner Gold Wand 8/11, and Kameko 12/1)
Russian Emperor 0.67pt @ 45/1 & Free Bet 0.33pt @ 33/1
Serpentine 0.67pt @ 38/1
Mogul 1pt @ 12/1

Love 1.2pts @ 25/1
Frankly Darling 1pt @ 36/1 (avge odds)

Both winners in the bag, great days, it’s like Cheltenham in the Summer.

On to the St Leger.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Well done winners.

Twitter is in meltdown over the Derby

A great day SW

[ryanh97]

Look, it's not our fault out of all the incredible songs written by English composers you chose a funeral dirge is it!

Oh absolutely, couldn't agree more. Give me jerusalem, land of hope and glory or rule brittania any day of the week

[Saxon Warrior]

Well done winners.

Twitter is in meltdown over the Derby

A great day SW

With AOB having six, why wouldnt you want a proven frontrunner take it up, at what must have been a sensible pace.
They did the same with Sovereign in the Irish Derby last year.
The other trainers/jockeys really should expect it.

Great day FM, and got some big prices on Love and Serpentine for the St Leger too, so hope these lines of form end up at Donny and dominate.

Biggest smile was when my cousin called me after Serpentine won to thank me for tipping the horse to him on Tuesday.
He doesn't have much money but the win is enough for him to buy a new computer he really needed.

[Stormy Antarctic]

With AOB having six, why wouldnt you want a proven frontrunner take it up, at what must have been a sensible pace.
They did the same with Sovereign in the Irish Derby last year.
The other trainers/jockeys really should expect it.

Great day FM, and got some big prices on Love and Serpentine for the St Leger too, so hope theses lines of form end up at Donny and dominate.

Biggest smile was when my cousin called me after Serpentine won to thank me for tipping the horse to him on Tuesday.
He doesn't have much money but the win is enough for him to buy a new computer he really needed.

Love that SW. you could be a modern day Robin Hood haha

[Saxon Warrior]

Love that SW. you could be a modern day Robin Hood haha

It gave me much more pleasure than my own wins.

It’s always more important to me that the horse wins, when a friend or family asks for my opinion on a big race.

I usually end up backing in big races and festivals, to get bigger odds, often antepost, I’m not a daily racing backer, more a targeted big-race man.

Makes it easier to immerse myself in study for the small number of races that are priced up antepost, than work through daily cards of runners up and down the country.
Ive found it works well enough for me.

Though Royal Ascot was a bit of a stinger, when the ground changed for the races.

[Stormy Antarctic]

It gave me much more pleasure than my own wins.

It’s always more important to me that the horse wins, when a friend or family asks for my opinion on a big race.

I usually end up backing in big races and festivals, to get bigger odds, often antepost, I’m not a daily racing backer, more a targeted big-race man.

Makes it easier to immerse myself in study for the small number of races that are priced up antepost, than work through daily cards of runners up and down the country.
Ive found it works well enough for me.

Though Royal Ascot was a bit of a stinger, when the ground changed for the races.

I’m actually completely the opposite, always struggled to find a plot horse and always pick night before racing. Works for me, especially with inexperienced horses.

I know the feeling as my Grandad relies only on a national newspaper for making his bets (he should just throw a dart), so when I give him a winner he thinks I’m a genius (could not be further than the truth)