March ‘25 Yankee

[Irish Rugby]

….are folk generally ok with these 3 suggestions?;

Munny (Ark) 12-1
Marine (CC) 7-1
Inothewayurthinking (GC) 5-1*

if we’re in agreement and looking for one more I’d be very tempted with Derryhassen Paddy whilst that 33-1 with 365 is still there. Russell absolutely loves this horse, everything is geared to chasing yet he ran a very decent 3rd in AB for one so lightly raced. She certainly knows how to train a staying chaser.

The consensus could be he’s an unlikely winner?

*Inothewayurthinking not running in GN.

Jasmin de Vaux for the Stayers with those 3 would be my ideal pick.

[Eggs]

Jasmin de Vaux for the Stayers with those 3 would be my ideal pick.

….happy with that and a popular suggestion but a little concerned about the differing trainer/owner view on whether he stays over hurdles or goes chasing.

[Istabraq]

Is there no love for Lecky Watson in here ?
Can’t be often a BANC winner gets initial quotes of 33s to follow up in the Gold Cup and no-one is keen.
Unless I’ve missed comments ?

Edit - just taken some 33s Lecky Watson, been trimmed to 20s and 25s in a couple of places…

[Ice]

Jasmin de Vaux for the Stayers with those 3 would be my ideal pick.

I'm happy with those three, already done one of my own with those and the new lion but will go again with the the fourth pick.

[Ice]

Is there no love for Lecky Watson in here ?
Can’t be often a BANC winner gets initial quotes of 33s to follow up in the Gold Cup and no-one is keen.
Unless I’ve missed comments ?

I've backed him purely because he won the banc, not often you see the winner of that at 33's for following season gold cup.

[darlojim]

He'll only be 6 but he still won't be able to jump a fence well enough to win a 2mile chase at cheltenham.

He's got plenty of time to learn

Would we have said Marine Nationale would win a QMCC this time last year, I'd say not.

[Eggs]

Is there no love for Lecky Watson in here ?
Can’t be often a BANC winner gets initial quotes of 33s to follow up in the Gold Cup and no-one is keen.
Unless I’ve missed comments ?

Edit - just taken some 33s Lecky Watson, been trimmed to 20s and 25s in a couple of places…

….plenty of love having backed him at 100-1, I have him in my GC book but I personally wouldn’t be having him in the Yankee at this point.

If we’re generally content with three, my preference would be a BANC contender for the 4th selection. First choice Derryhassen Paddy, 2nd Wendigo, 3rd Kitzbuhel.

[Istabraq]

….plenty of love having backed him at 100-1, I have him in my GC book but I personally wouldn’t be having him in the Yankee at this point.
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What’s the reason for this Eggs ?
If he’s good enough for your book why not a yankee ?
There literally isn’t another race for him…

[archie]

From the Bartlett, at the prices I'd have Wendigo ahead of The Big Westerner and Derryhassen Paddy. Almost brought down after the second last and did extremely well to finish fifth. Trainer says he's finished for the season and will be chasing in the autumn.

[AaronLad]

He's got plenty of time to learn

Would we have said Marine Nationale would win a QMCC this time last year, I'd say not.

While I agree on the marine nationale point I think they could be considered different scenarios.

Marine nationale just didn't look the same horse and has steadily returned to what is his true level?
While Majborough was considered a banker for the arkle, and had looked to be in top form, although his jumping was criticised by some.

I'd also agree he has plenty of time on his hands and his jumping can improve, my doubt is that it will be over 2 miles, i think he needs to be In a race with a slower overall pace, to help with his jumping, not because he can't go with them.

[Eggs]

What’s the reason for this Eggs ?
If he’s good enough for your book why not a yankee ?
There literally isn’t another race for him…

….i’m happy to get him in my book as a single with cash-out option, he owes me nothing but I’m seeing him as potential at this point. Hopefully 33-1 looks good after a few appearances next season but reading diaries it’s apparently a ‘weak’ BANC and I’d see more likely GC winners at this point.

[Saxon Warrior]

….i’m happy to get him in my book as a single with cash-out option, he owes me nothing but I’m seeing him as potential at this point. Hopefully 33-1 looks good after a few appearances next season but reading diaries it’s apparently a ‘weak’ BANC and I’d see more likely GC winners at this point.

I dont think it's a Weak BANC.

Certainly.looked deeper than the Arkle.

Probably only Paulings pair missing

the injured
The Jukebox Man

the Aintree bound (Jango Baie conqueror at Grade 1)
Handstands

The Gold Cup next year could have 2 to 3 main older/experienced horses

inothewayurthinkin
Galopin
(Fact 2 File maybe)

...the rest last week, wouldn't now look too testing for the next batch of Novice Chasers moving into Open Company.

33/1 E/W for an easy, unbeaten BANC winner seems too high to me.

Him and The Jukebox Man (if he returns fit and well). Both look decent odds for E/W bets, if that's the sort of Yankee being looked at.

[Luke95]

Hi guys, first time poster after being a lurker for a few years…

Personally, if looking at the BANC i’d rather back Final Demand. Appreciate it might be a little short as a single 12 months out at 6/1 but as part of a yankee I think it’s fair, and not too dissimilar to other suggested selections.

Having had a look at Simon Rowlands’ sectional pieces reviewing the festival on the ATR site along with his current top rated horses in each division, along with timeforms ratings review thread on X, it seems both rate the form of the turners higher than the albert bartlett. That’s probably common most years tbf. I thought Final Demand ran a cracker, looked to be coming with a winning ride until the last and kept trying right to the line to be beaten just over 5 lengths by two horses who probably just had a bit too much speed for him on the ground.

i’d say baring injury its nigh on certain that he heads to the BANC in 12 months time, rare to say with a Mullins runner. He looked the most imposing of the front three of the turners to me and he looks like he’ll be most suited to chasing. Will be an Irish bred 7 year old by race time also, this combination always tend to do well in the BANC. Won over 2m6f at the DRF and looks sure to improve at 3m, but I also like the fact he has top class form at the mid range trip. Also like The Yellow Clay but don’t think he has quite as much scope to progress over fences and slight concern Gordon mentioned he didn’t see him as a real 3 miler.

Not against any of the albert bartlett suggestions at all, I just feel future winners tend to come from a range of finishing positions, even those PU, so slightly bigger risk. Do agree Derryhassen Paddy is one of the more interesting ones at the current prices though.

Mullins won 7/13 grade 1’s this year and probably unfortunate not to get a few more (especially champ hurdle and arkle) , so think it makes sense to target some of his early on, especially one with a pretty likely target.

also agree with an earlier comment around taking Kopek Des Bordes ahead of William Munny for the arkle, again looks like a chaser and feel he has more scope for improvement being a 5 year old. Don’t think he hurdles fluently enough for a champ hurdle, although there is some doubt so can understand going with Munny after his trainer comments.

[The_Dreamer]

Hey, first time poster here.

With the removal of the turners novice chase and national hunt chase, I'd be really confident Jasmin Des Vaux will stay over hurdle. His jumping is another reason.

The changes in races happened late in the year last year so I think things will change for next season. Before Willie targeted the 4 novice chase and the champion hurdles with his latest crop of novice hurdlers. The stayers seemed to be an afterthought with him reflected by him only having two winners, both double figure prices.

So now he has only two novice chases and champion hurdle, I think Willie will end sending more of his better horses than previously.

[Hurricane fly]

I watched a Racingtv interview with Patrick Mullins at Haydock on the Saturday and he talked about the stayers aswell. Said Willie was talking about chasing but he thought hurdles. Adds to Bromley's thoughts post race that he's too small to be a chaser.