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  • #16
    Originally posted by Eggs View Post
    ….24 already declared for the FW, I think only 22 get in.
    A lot are the bottom dwellers set to carry 10st flat etc

    However Hot Fuss currently number 15, Ephesus number 19. 10 more potential declarations who be above Hot Fuss. Horses left that are high in the weights are trained by Willie (4), Gavin Cromwell (2) and JOB (2), the other trainers all only have 1 entry so suspect they would stay in.
    Looks like it will come down to Willies decision making.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post

      A lot are the bottom dwellers set to carry 10st flat etc

      However Hot Fuss currently number 15, Ephesus number 19. 10 more potential declarations who be above Hot Fuss. Horses left that are high in the weights are trained by Willie (4), Gavin Cromwell (2) and JOB (2), the other trainers all only have 1 entry so suspect they would stay in.
      Looks like it will come down to Willies decision making.
      Hot Fuss will be fine, IMO.

      Ephesus is going to struggle, which is a shame.

      Do they have reserves still? If so he will be one.

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      • #18
        Pretty expected but looks like no Conflated in the Ultimate so everyone will be getting some additional weight - I think 5lbs

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        • #19
          One thing interesting is if trainers with horses that might not get in wait to see the numbers that are getting declared before pressing the button

          The likes of Myretown in the Ultima is a case

          If they wait till late and see if it fills up then there's no point declaring

          Whereas if they do declare and get balloted out we are entitled to have our stake refunded on Antepost bets

          That's how I understand it
          Stand corrected if I am wrong

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Liammet View Post
            One thing interesting is if trainers with horses that might not get in wait to see the numbers that are getting declared before pressing the button

            The likes of Myretown in the Ultima is a case

            If they wait till late and see if it fills up then there's no point declaring

            Whereas if they do declare and get balloted out we are entitled to have our stake refunded on Antepost bets

            That's how I understand it
            Stand corrected if I am wrong
            They get their entry money back if they declare and balloted out so makes sense for the owners to declare them even if not getting in to get the money back.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Liammet View Post
              One thing interesting is if trainers with horses that might not get in wait to see the numbers that are getting declared before pressing the button

              The likes of Myretown in the Ultima is a case

              If they wait till late and see if it fills up then there's no point declaring

              Whereas if they do declare and get balloted out we are entitled to have our stake refunded on Antepost bets

              That's how I understand it
              Stand corrected if I am wrong
              There is no benefit to Myretown not declaring if they want to run. If they declare and he is balloted out they get their entry fees refunded. If they dont declare then they lose their entry fees. Its his only entry so if they want to run they should declare.

              The only times that it would pay not to declare early is if you have a choice of engagements and you want to see the make up of the field before pressing the button (e.g. Golden Ace) or if you have multiple entries and you can determine which of yours will make the cut

              If you declare and are balloted out then you are still allowed to declare for another race later in the week.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Prestbury View Post

                There is no benefit to Myretown not declaring if they want to run. If they declare and he is balloted out they get their entry fees refunded. If they dont declare then they lose their entry fees. Its his only entry so if they want to run they should declare.

                The only times that it would pay not to declare early is if you have a choice of engagements and you want to see the make up of the field before pressing the button (e.g. Golden Ace) or if you have multiple entries and you can determine which of yours will make the cut

                If you declare and are balloted out then you are still allowed to declare for another race later in the week.
                Thanks

                Explains it well

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                  Hot Fuss will be fine, IMO.

                  Ephesus is going to struggle, which is a shame.

                  Do they have reserves still? If so he will be one.
                  It looks like Hot Fuss going to need Lady Vega Allen not to run too get in.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                    It looks like Hot Fuss going to need Lady Vega Allen not to run too get in.
                    Based on the exchanges this morning both WDH & LVA won't be going.

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                    • #25
                      So looking like 5 max in arkle? Maybe even just the 4 runners?

                      Edit Only by Night is in, Gavin looked at the short field and said why not?
                      Last edited by Big Bucks; Today, 09:06 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Only By Night in the Arkle

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                        • #27
                          Only By Night in the Arkle

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                          • #28
                            Full field in the NHC chase is good to see. Just Mullins now to declare.

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                            • #29
                              Willie not out of bed yet.

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                              • #30
                                FFS Willie get the finger out

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