Cheltenham 2026 Prices

[AaronLad]

Think it's probably a stretch to use that as a reason not to be worried, if sir gino was fit I doubt it was a plan to ever be going for the arkle with jango.

I think it indicates that they feel he might be better over further at least as a hurdler. So my own thinking would be you'd want him to be a brilliant jumper of a fence to be nailed on arkle. If hes just an average jumper of a fence then it might also be further distances.

Personally have no interest in him for anything at the moment, getting beat by a hurdling debutant in a bunch finish makes his arkle price atrocious imo. People expecting him to be sir gino number two purely because of same connections and being a juvenile from france.

No interest for me Whatsoever for the arkle.
I was however using a recent example of a Henderson horse that went further over hurdles but went and won an arkle.
Shishkin and sprinter sacre also went further over hurdles are 2 more examples.

I agree with what you're saying about him but it's a hendo thing to do it would appear?

[riccirich]

No interest for me Whatsoever for the arkle.
I was however using a recent example of a Henderson horse that went further over hurdles but went and won an arkle.
Shishkin and sprinter sacre also went further over hurdles are 2 more examples.

I agree with what you're saying about him but it's a hendo thing to do it would appear?

If i recall right when shishkin and sprinter ran over further over hurdles it was maiden hurdles or novice hurdles before cheltenham, which was probably just a case of getting them out.

It's just the fact he's running over further for the first time after being beaten in the triumph, and when there is a 2m race against his own age group that he could be easily running in, that makes it seem like it could be slightly more significant.

It's not that he couldn't win the arkle, it's just that it would be a worry that the arkle may not be the trainers target if he goes and puts in an improved display over further.

[Hurricane fly]

If the Turners was still a race I think it would be more concerning.

Having said that, I haven't and won't be backing him for the Arkle.

[Sprinter Sacre]

i only have access to one account but I'll be loading the weekly wheelbarrow into Impaire Et Passe - Ryanair when markets are available.

A ticket I'm very happy to be on so thanks for the suggestion. Jango at 50/1 for the Gold Cup be a bet.

[Kevloaf]

Impaire Et Passe for the Ryanair, or waits for Aintree again perhaps?

[Hurricane fly]

2nd fall in a row with a dodgy jump or two thrown in.

Does Constitution Hill need a fence?

[FinalFurlong91]

Impaire Et Passe for the Ryanair, or waits for Aintree again perhaps?

Ryanair surely

He's waited for Aintree the last two seasons as there was no 2m4f race for him 20s is still a great price

[riccirich]

Wouldn't be going anywhere near impaire for cheltenham myself without cashout.

He's waited for aintree the last two seasons because there apparently wasnt a race for him at cheltenham, but it had led to two wins for him at the track, and the double green were pretty light on cheltenham runners all round this year.

The bowl could easily be his target next year rather than anything at cheltenham.

[Zachx02]

Wouldn't be going anywhere near impaire for cheltenham myself without cashout.

He's waited for aintree the last two seasons because there apparently wasnt a race for him at cheltenham, but it had led to two wins for him at the track, and the double green were pretty light on cheltenham runners all round this year.

The bowl could easily be his target next year rather than anything at cheltenham.

I'd argue his best performance came at cheltenham over the middle distance trip, i see no reason for them to skip

[luisgarciaisgod]

Wouldn't be going anywhere near impaire for cheltenham myself without cashout.

He's waited for aintree the last two seasons because there apparently wasnt a race for him at cheltenham, but it had led to two wins for him at the track, and the double green were pretty light on cheltenham runners all round this year.

The bowl could easily be his target next year rather than anything at cheltenham.

He's missed Cheltenham the last two years because there isn't a mid trip non handicap for non novice hurdlers (last year) and there isn't a mid trip non handicap for novice chasers (this year)

Connections basically said he'll be aimed towards the Ryanair after the race today.

https://x.com/itvracing/status/1907782251460337928

[riccirich]

I'd argue his best performance came at cheltenham over the middle distance trip, i see no reason for them to skip

I think it will always be in the back of their minds that he has a good record at Aintree. The owners also don't seem too fussed about whether they go to Cheltenham or not.

If let's say fact to file is aimed at the Ryanair again next year, then i could very easily see impaire being kept fresh for the bowl or the Melling. In that scenario, your possibly looking at an easier race at a meeting that he's 2/2 at.

Depends on how strong the Ryanair ends up being obviously, along with what sort of gap there is between the festivals next year.

[FinalFurlong91]

I think it will always be in the back of their minds that he has a good record at Aintree. The owners also don't seem too fussed about whether they go to Cheltenham or not.

If let's say fact to file is aimed at the Ryanair again next year, then i could very easily see impaire being kept fresh for the bowl or the Melling. In that scenario, your possibly looking at an easier race at a meeting that he's 2/2 at.

Depends on how strong the Ryanair ends up being obviously, along with what sort of gap there is between the festivals next year.

Can't see him being 2/2 at Aintree being a factor personally. He's also unbeaten at Cheltenham and it's far more prestigious.

Only way he doesn't run is if they run scared of fact to file.

I'd argue he should be 2nd fav for the Ryanair let's look at the horses ahead of him in the betting

majborough. Major jumping questions.
jonbon. Doesn't like Cheltenham and will be 10.
Banbridge. Ground dependant and will be 10.
Gaelic. Looked an out and out 3 miler today worth a go in the gold cup. If not the king george and bowl.
Ballyburn. 16/1 is missing a zero, he cant jump.
Grey dawning. Not good enough imo.
Dinoblue. Won't run.
Caldwell potter. Has to prove hes better than a handicapper but is the best jumper by far of this years novices. Shouldnt be the same price as impaire.

I'd say impaire at 20s now after today is better value than the 33s many of us took after this years festival.

Fact to file is the obvious stand out but he's 3/1 which is a shocking price for a race 11 months away that he might not even run in.

[HoldenTheReins]

Fact to file is the obvious stand out but he's 3/1 which is a shocking price for a race 11 months away that he might not even run in.

Yep, Sir Gino is a woeful price also as we still don't know much on his health. Some are 11/4 for the Champion Chase. Fucking scandalous.

[Ice]

Yep, Sir Gino is a woeful price also as we still don't know much on his health. Some are 11/4 for the Champion Chase. Fucking scandalous.

I think gino is the worst of all next years prices, I'd want 11/4 that he actually lines up !

[Sprinter Sacre]

Can't see him being 2/2 at Aintree being a factor personally. He's also unbeaten at Cheltenham and it's far more prestigious.

Only way he doesn't run is if they run scared of fact to file.

I'd argue he should be 2nd fav for the Ryanair let's look at the horses ahead of him in the betting

majborough. Major jumping questions.
jonbon. Doesn't like Cheltenham and will be 10.
Banbridge. Ground dependant and will be 10.
Gaelic. Looked an out and out 3 miler today worth a go in the gold cup. If not the king george and bowl.
Ballyburn. 16/1 is missing a zero, he cant jump.
Grey dawning. Not good enough imo.
Dinoblue. Won't run.
Caldwell potter. Has to prove hes better than a handicapper but is the best jumper by far of this years novices. Shouldnt be the same price as impaire.

I'd say impaire at 20s now after today is better value than the 33s many of us took after this years festival.

Fact to file is the obvious stand out but he's 3/1 which is a shocking price for a race 11 months away that he might not even run in.

I was looking at everything ahead in the market earlier too and thinking that Impaire could very easily be Ryanair favourite next March. I think Fact To File is more likely to run in the Gold Cup.