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Champion Bumper ‘25

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  • The one note I’d add to the bumper thread, is that experience is usually a huge advantage. Jalon d’oudaries should not be underestimated

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    • Originally posted by Imperial Commander View Post
      Different races but it terms of 2025 & 2026 Festival doubles, I quite like the 40-1 about East India Dock for the 2025 Triumph Hurdle & 2026 Champion Hurdle. At 9-4 for the Triumph, I make that about 11.6-1 for next year's Champion Hurdle, if he's already won this year's Triumph.

      Yes it's the "difficult 5 year old season" but I'm thinking his slick hurdling technique means there's no need to send him over fences so it looks decent to me.

      Price is with PP/BFSB
      I couldn't criticise anyone for throwing a 40/1 dart but if, as your calculations suggest, he's just shy of 12/1 for the 2026 Champion Hurdle I'd make that poor value.
      Constitutiin Hill, Lossiemouth and Brighterdaysahead are three reasons I don't like it, he may not even be the best horse to contest the Triumph, throw in any stars that may come from this years novices which at this stage seem a strong bunch, then add the usual dangers of form, injury, target etc, I'm not seeing it.
      I'd be interested to see a straight 2026 Champion Hurdle market, I'm not sure EID would be shorter than 16/1 right now....

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      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

        I couldn't criticise anyone for throwing a 40/1 dart but if, as your calculations suggest, he's just shy of 12/1 for the 2026 Champion Hurdle I'd make that poor value.
        Constitutiin Hill, Lossiemouth and Brighterdaysahead are three reasons I don't like it, he may not even be the best horse to contest the Triumph, throw in any stars that may come from this years novices which at this stage seem a strong bunch, then add the usual dangers of form, injury, target etc, I'm not seeing it.
        I'd be interested to see a straight 2026 Champion Hurdle market, I'm not sure EID would be shorter than 16/1 right now....
        Yes, I'd be interested to see a 2026 Champion Hurdle market too, maybe one will appear in the next week or two. Of course there are all the usual ante post dangers, as you say.

        As it's a related double, the odds for the 2nd half of the bet though would be to win the Champion Hurdle having already won the Triumph Hurdle, so the odds would naturally be shorter than any Champion Hurdle odds would be now.

        It's good to see the occasional Special Double price that's interests me as there aren't usually that many!

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        • Originally posted by Imperial Commander View Post

          Yes, I'd be interested to see a 2026 Champion Hurdle market too, maybe one will appear in the next week or two. Of course there are all the usual ante post dangers, as you say.

          As it's a related double, the odds for the 2nd half of the bet though would be to win the Champion Hurdle having already won the Triumph Hurdle, so the odds would naturally be shorter than any Champion Hurdle odds would be now.

          It's good to see the occasional Special Double price that's interests me as there aren't usually that many!
          Yeah it's a shame, there was a time multiple bookies would price up the following years championship races before the upcoming renewals, just another example of how risk adverse they've become.
          It's worth keeping your eyes peeled, I'd like to think something will appear soon, hopefully this side of the Triumph !
          Best of luck...

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          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

            Yeah it's a shame, there was a time multiple bookies would price up the following years championship races before the upcoming renewals, just another example of how risk adverse they've become.
            It's worth keeping your eyes peeled, I'd like to think something will appear soon, hopefully this side of the Triumph !
            Best of luck...
            We normally see at least one bookies with next years prices but if I remember rightly it's usually the week before the festival. I have a few in mind that I would like to see the prices of ASAP.

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            • I'm waiting on 2026 prices for.....
              Final Demand - Brown Advisory
              Lulamba - Arkle

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              • Originally posted by IstabraqBarRegular View Post
                I'm waiting on 2026 prices for.....
                Final Demand - Brown Advisory
                Lulamba - Arkle

                …PP

                FD Turn/BANC 14-1
                Lulamba & Ark 20-1

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                • Backed windbeneath this morning.. Hoping the form gets franked in the next.

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                  • Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
                    Backed windbeneath this morning.. Hoping the form gets franked in the next.
                    Which begs the question now.. Precious metal.... She said he might be to young for the festival. She hasn't said anything more since the race has she about Cheltenham??

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