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Champion Bumper ‘25

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  • Originally posted by Yosser View Post

    He identifies as a NH sire but so far has sired nothing of note over obstacles. He will never make a jumps sire no matter how hard they try. I know nothing of the broodmare though and haven't looked it up so she could be a good one but as of now, for me, Order Of St George is a flat horse by Galileo masquerading as a NH sire.
    I think you'll be surprised by Order of St George. The PTP trainers seem to like his progeny. His oldest crop are the 4yos so no wonder he hasn't yet had a really good one. They'll likely be slower maturing horses than the French types winning big races at 3/4.

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    • Originally posted by Yosser View Post

      He identifies as a NH sire but so far has sired nothing of note over obstacles. He will never make a jumps sire no matter how hard they try. I know nothing of the broodmare though and haven't looked it up so she could be a good one but as of now, for me, Order Of St George is a flat horse by Galileo masquerading as a NH sire.
      He’s only just started out so too early to predict his future. He’s done well in P2P and at the sales so he’s no dud at the moment. Nearly all NH sires are ex-flat horses and a good few of them come from that Saddlers Wells line. You’ve just referenced a Soldier Of Milan as one you’re looking at for the bumper. His sire is by Galileo so there is no logic here.

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      • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

        He’s only just started out so too early to predict his future. He’s done well in P2P and at the sales so he’s no dud at the moment. Nearly all NH sires are ex-flat horses and a good few of them come from that Saddlers Wells line. You’ve just referenced a Soldier Of Milan as one you’re looking at for the bumper. His sire is by Galileo so there is no logic here.
        Yep, far too soon to say,
        Masar another one, won the 2018 Derby so his prodigy are only just starting to be seen, will be 3/4 years before we'll truly know....

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        • Whilst we’re on the subject, Obey The Order is firmly on my radar, potentially even as a late flyer for the bumper. Apparently he is now with Willie.

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          • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

            He’s only just started out so too early to predict his future. He’s done well in P2P and at the sales so he’s no dud at the moment. Nearly all NH sires are ex-flat horses and a good few of them come from that Saddlers Wells line. You’ve just referenced a Soldier Of Milan as one you’re looking at for the bumper. His sire is by Galileo so there is no logic here.


            90% of this forum summed up in one quote. (I changed it from 99%)

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            • Originally posted by somer1 View Post

              Can you see AK going to the bumper riccirich
              No idea, haven't seen any comments from the trainer about it, unless someone else has. Same trainer/owner combo ran d art d art in the bumper a couple seasons back though so they aren't against bringing one over for it anyway.

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              • Any chance the Brighterdaysahead/Might Potter etc half brother comes here? Entered at Naas on Sunday but only a 4yo.

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                • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                  Any chance the Brighterdaysahead/Might Potter etc half brother comes here? Entered at Naas on Sunday but only a 4yo.
                  Spoke to JackieMoon33 about him a few month back

                  Worry would be his age indeed.

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                  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                    Spoke to JackieMoon33 about him a few month back

                    Worry would be his age indeed.
                    I said I thought he’d go for the valuable sales bumper that he qualifies for, rather than Chelts.

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                    • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                      I said I thought he’d go for the valuable sales bumper that he qualifies for, rather than Chelts.
                      Yeah. He’s already entered for that. Not sure if entries are automatic though?

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                      • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                        Yeah. He’s already entered for that. Not sure if entries are automatic though?
                        Initial entries are for all horses sold at the sale.

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                        • Apparently a nice horse of Willie's entered in the Fairyhouse bumper today.

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                          • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
                            Apparently a nice horse of Willie's entered in the Fairyhouse bumper today.
                            Likely to stay in bumpers being 6?

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                            • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
                              Apparently a nice horse of Willie's entered in the Fairyhouse bumper today.
                              He’s in my P2P list but I was surprised at the whispers for him. I didn’t have him down as a bumper type but appears I’m off target with that.

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                              • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
                                Apparently a nice horse of Willie's entered in the Fairyhouse bumper today.
                                50s WTAF looks very fair. 4/5 to win today and 33/1 for the festival.

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