2025 Mares Hurdle

[Rooster Booster]

Planning ahead then.

Yep - even to the point of him being a nonner the other day….is that the clue

[Lobos]

Trouble is, if CH, Lossiemouth, and State Man try to keep pace with BDA and KOK, they'll all bloody collapse and a 3 miler will come through to win

[Quevega]

50-1 ew is actually not a bad price for him to place.
If theres any sort of fall and interference in behind they could get away.
And if Lossie don;t run
You'd think he'd have a shout of getting 3rd.

[Lobos]

yep...........

Planning ahead then.

[Quevega]

Is KOK entered for the Churdle??

yep...........

[Lobos]

Is KOK entered for the Churdle??

[Lobos]

I don't believe BDA can replicate that performance, they are very, very rare. However, if she can get to within a few pounds of it then I do think she wins.

[Craigy14]

Haha I’ll just write it here instead of quoting

Thats true about the lasting the pace, I think C Hill certainly can, Lossie obviously we don’t know. It’s guesswork on all fronts really I suppose. Can BDA produce a similar performance? Is C Hill still the horse he was? Can Lossie sustain the 2m pace? Hopefully all 3 go champion and we get to find out.

I’d just be shocked if she was able to unless she had those exact tactics which I suspect they wouldn’t get away with.

As you said Rooster will stop here as its mares thread haha!

[Rooster Booster]

There's a difference between being able and alive to the early pace and then what happens at the business end.
The most impressive part of BDA that day was how she kept going once the pacemaker moved over.

The big if is if she can reproduce that sort of effort at Cheltenham. And if one of the other contenders can pass her up the stretch.

You’ve saved me a post

[Quevega]

No probably not that day mate, but any future races yes. The basis of that opinion below.

May be wrong but I just don’t see BDA being able to back up that sort of performance, without those tactics. I’d be gobsmacked if the other jockeys let them away with those tactics again. Nico would certainly be sitting on her quarters, Lossie prior to her fall seemed to cope with the pace she was setting and would probably be stocking C Hill.

There's a difference between being able and alive to the early pace and then what happens at the business end.
The most impressive part of BDA that day was how she kept going once the pacemaker moved over.

The big if is if she can reproduce that sort of effort at Cheltenham. And if one of the other contenders can pass her up the stretch.

[Craigy14]

So you think Lossiemouth would have beaten her that day?

No probably not that day mate, but any future races yes. The basis of that opinion below.

May be wrong but I just don’t see BDA being able to back up that sort of performance, without those tactics. I’d be gobsmacked if the other jockeys let them away with those tactics again. Nico would certainly be sitting on her quarters, Lossie prior to her fall seemed to cope with the pace she was setting and would probably be stocking C Hill.

[Ice]

Possible absolutely, and I’m sure many if not the vast majority will be assuming this to be the case but isn’t it guesswork? perhaps two years is an awful long time to be making these assumptions without any evidence to back them up. Isnt it just blind faith?

I should apologise this is the Mares hurdle thread after all

There's definitely an element of guesswork as his two runs this season haven't been anywhere near his awesome best, hopefully they've left plenty to work on and those runs bring him on plenty, i suppose we'll see in March (all being well) if he is still near that level. I did keep topping up when he drifted so there's definitely some blind faith involved, some may say stupidity !

[Rooster Booster]

Maybe they know he's the far better horse and don't care if she takes him on in the champion hurdle !?

Possible absolutely, and I’m sure many if not the vast majority will be assuming this to be the case but isn’t it guesswork? perhaps two years is an awful long time to be making these assumptions without any evidence to back them up. Isnt it just blind faith?

I should apologise this is the Mares hurdle thread after all

[Ice]

Yep so would I. There’s something not sitting quite right with me about CH. Hendo et al would have known that connections of one of his biggest rivals were looking for an excuse to bail. What better excuse than seeing CH put in a performance to justify taking the safer option,not necessarily sensational, but good enough. Instead they chose to let him do little more than a strong gallop. Are they themselves doubting whether he is in fact the same horse and are too afraid to show what’s under the bonnet in case it’s not what they hope. Maybe paranoia on my part but it sat a little uneasy with me at the time and I haven’t been able to shift that feeling since.

Maybe they know he's the far better horse and don't care if she takes him on in the champion hurdle !?

[Lobos]

The way elliot speaks today about BDA seems like they will announce early, in which case this gives Lossie a potential headache/option.
If they announce for the champion and Townend is choosing State Man then the ears of Ricci will be ringing with thoughts and comments to go for the mares.

I'd have BDA a lot closer to C Hill than 9/4 NRNB and Lossie would also be a lot shorter than 5/4 NRNB mares.
Related double seems obvious. with cash out.

Did you also get the feeling they are edging towards the CH with her or is it just me getting excited by the thought of it ? I agree that if they make that call early then Lossiemouth sadly will jump ship. I haven't done the related double as I just don't like backing anything at the Fez on the back of a fall and her fall looked horrible. I have however done the JDG/BDA double after yesterday's positive news.