2025 Mares Hurdle

[Istabraq]

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[archie]

Only big opponents BDA can have from what I’ve seen are CH in the CH , and Lossie in the Mares.

Why should she fear Lossiemouth in the Mares but not the Champion?

[Carnage at Taunton]

Why should she fear Lossiemouth in the Mares but not the Champion?

You are right she should
Was just thinking if BDA went Ch, then maybe L would go mares
if they clashed anywhere I think they would be very wary of each other

[Craigy14]

Wary of each other but not the best hurdler potentially we have ever seen

Find it bizarre that the mares are ‘avoiding’ each other. I know Elliott said ‘there’s a mare Lossiemouth’ when asked about the champion I think it was but she’s hardly done much since those comments. I very much like Lossiemouth as well and think she’d take BDA over either trip. I think BDA got away with one at Xmas that day and tactics were genius but her only chance of a Cheltenham win is the mares with no Lossie imo. There is zero chance they get away with those tactics again imo.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Wary of each other but not the best hurdler potentially we have ever seen

Find it bizarre that the mares are ‘avoiding’ each other. I know Elliott said ‘there’s a mare Lossiemouth’ when asked about the champion I think it was but she’s hardly done much since those comments. I very much like Lossiemouth as well and think she’d take BDA over either trip. I think BDA got away with one at Xmas that day and tactics were genius but her only chance of a Cheltenham win is the mares with no Lossie imo. There is zero chance they get away with those tactics again imo.

I would side with BDA and I hope they face each other so we can find out
My gut says not

[Rooster Booster]

Wary of each other but not the best hurdler potentially we have ever seen

Find it bizarre that the mares are ‘avoiding’ each other. I know Elliott said ‘there’s a mare Lossiemouth’ when asked about the champion I think it was but she’s hardly done much since those comments. I very much like Lossiemouth as well and think she’d take BDA over either trip. I think BDA got away with one at Xmas that day and tactics were genius but her only chance of a Cheltenham win is the mares with no Lossie imo. There is zero chance they get away with those tactics again imo.

So you think Lossiemouth would have beaten her that day?

[Quevega]

The way elliot speaks today about BDA seems like they will announce early, in which case this gives Lossie a potential headache/option.
If they announce for the champion and Townend is choosing State Man then the ears of Ricci will be ringing with thoughts and comments to go for the mares.

I'd have BDA a lot closer to C Hill than 9/4 NRNB and Lossie would also be a lot shorter than 5/4 NRNB mares.
Related double seems obvious. with cash out.

[Rooster Booster]

The way elliot speaks today about BDA seems like they will announce early, in which case this gives Lossie a potential headache.
I'd have BDA a lot closer to C Hill than 9/4 NRNB and Lossie would also be a lot shorter than 5/4 NRNB mares.
Related double seems obvious. with cash out.

Yep so would I. There’s something not sitting quite right with me about CH. Hendo et al would have known that connections of one of his biggest rivals were looking for an excuse to bail. What better excuse than seeing CH put in a performance to justify taking the safer option,not necessarily sensational, but good enough. Instead they chose to let him do little more than a strong gallop. Are they themselves doubting whether he is in fact the same horse and are too afraid to show what’s under the bonnet in case it’s not what they hope. Maybe paranoia on my part but it sat a little uneasy with me at the time and I haven’t been able to shift that feeling since.

[Lobos]

The way elliot speaks today about BDA seems like they will announce early, in which case this gives Lossie a potential headache/option.
If they announce for the champion and Townend is choosing State Man then the ears of Ricci will be ringing with thoughts and comments to go for the mares.

I'd have BDA a lot closer to C Hill than 9/4 NRNB and Lossie would also be a lot shorter than 5/4 NRNB mares.
Related double seems obvious. with cash out.

Did you also get the feeling they are edging towards the CH with her or is it just me getting excited by the thought of it ? I agree that if they make that call early then Lossiemouth sadly will jump ship. I haven't done the related double as I just don't like backing anything at the Fez on the back of a fall and her fall looked horrible. I have however done the JDG/BDA double after yesterday's positive news.

[Ice]

Yep so would I. There’s something not sitting quite right with me about CH. Hendo et al would have known that connections of one of his biggest rivals were looking for an excuse to bail. What better excuse than seeing CH put in a performance to justify taking the safer option,not necessarily sensational, but good enough. Instead they chose to let him do little more than a strong gallop. Are they themselves doubting whether he is in fact the same horse and are too afraid to show what’s under the bonnet in case it’s not what they hope. Maybe paranoia on my part but it sat a little uneasy with me at the time and I haven’t been able to shift that feeling since.

Maybe they know he's the far better horse and don't care if she takes him on in the champion hurdle !?

[Rooster Booster]

Maybe they know he's the far better horse and don't care if she takes him on in the champion hurdle !?

Possible absolutely, and I’m sure many if not the vast majority will be assuming this to be the case but isn’t it guesswork? perhaps two years is an awful long time to be making these assumptions without any evidence to back them up. Isnt it just blind faith?

I should apologise this is the Mares hurdle thread after all

[Ice]

Possible absolutely, and I’m sure many if not the vast majority will be assuming this to be the case but isn’t it guesswork? perhaps two years is an awful long time to be making these assumptions without any evidence to back them up. Isnt it just blind faith?

I should apologise this is the Mares hurdle thread after all

There's definitely an element of guesswork as his two runs this season haven't been anywhere near his awesome best, hopefully they've left plenty to work on and those runs bring him on plenty, i suppose we'll see in March (all being well) if he is still near that level. I did keep topping up when he drifted so there's definitely some blind faith involved, some may say stupidity !

[Craigy14]

So you think Lossiemouth would have beaten her that day?

No probably not that day mate, but any future races yes. The basis of that opinion below.

May be wrong but I just don’t see BDA being able to back up that sort of performance, without those tactics. I’d be gobsmacked if the other jockeys let them away with those tactics again. Nico would certainly be sitting on her quarters, Lossie prior to her fall seemed to cope with the pace she was setting and would probably be stocking C Hill.

[Quevega]

No probably not that day mate, but any future races yes. The basis of that opinion below.

May be wrong but I just don’t see BDA being able to back up that sort of performance, without those tactics. I’d be gobsmacked if the other jockeys let them away with those tactics again. Nico would certainly be sitting on her quarters, Lossie prior to her fall seemed to cope with the pace she was setting and would probably be stocking C Hill.

There's a difference between being able and alive to the early pace and then what happens at the business end.
The most impressive part of BDA that day was how she kept going once the pacemaker moved over.

The big if is if she can reproduce that sort of effort at Cheltenham. And if one of the other contenders can pass her up the stretch.

[Rooster Booster]

There's a difference between being able and alive to the early pace and then what happens at the business end.
The most impressive part of BDA that day was how she kept going once the pacemaker moved over.

The big if is if she can reproduce that sort of effort at Cheltenham. And if one of the other contenders can pass her up the stretch.

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