2025 Mares Hurdle

[Hurricane fly]

If you think she is vulnerable in the Mares you should have no complaint about her not being in the CH as she would be out the picture by the final turn

[FinalFurlong91]

I just don’t think they expected the fast pace, naive imo. Knowing Burdett Road was in the field who likes to set a decent pace, but she still beat him easily and was only 2 and a bit lengths off C Hill. She’s always travelled so well as races probably not ran as strong as that Xmas hurdle on a flat track and good ground thrown into the mix.

C Hill obviously not at his best but on days like that he still got the job done and she was staying on all the way imo. I’m in a similar position in that have Jade and July as cover but wouldn’t be surprised to see Lossie do similar to last year.

The FSP was 106% so they didn't even go quick at kempton

[Craigy14]

she did win an a canter but youd be extremely worried if she couldnt beat the stayers hurdle winner in what was effectively a 4f sprint

It's the Xmas run that concerns me more than the fall as a backer tbh

One thing lossie has always done is travel very strongly. Almost all of her runs read travelled strongly or took keen hold. Shes done it on various tracks and various grounds. But that day she simply didn't look herself at all.

But maybe I'm being pessimistic and I do have jade as back up. Plus the likely 3rd fav golden ace isn't running.

I just don’t think they expected the fast pace, naive imo. Knowing Burdett Road was in the field who likes to set a decent pace, but she still beat him easily and was only 2 and a bit lengths off C Hill. She’s always travelled so well as races probably not ran as strong as that Xmas hurdle on a flat track and good ground thrown into the mix.

C Hill obviously not at his best but on days like that he still got the job done and she was staying on all the way imo. I’m in a similar position in that have Jade and July as cover but wouldn’t be surprised to see Lossie do similar to last year.

[FinalFurlong91]

Remember she won that Hattons Grace in an absolute canter.

She’ll have similar conditions at a track she loves as well.

I think field is stronger this year but don’t think they’ll be good enough to get to her level. The prep isn’t ideal but the Xmas run was decent enough against the best hurdler potentially we’ve ever seen. Obviously the fall last time is the big concern but as long as she’s recovered it doesn’t really bother me too much. She doesn’t know the stats on fallers etc.

she did win an a canter but youd be extremely worried if she couldnt beat the stayers hurdle winner in what was effectively a 4f sprint

It's the Xmas run that concerns me more than the fall as a backer tbh

One thing lossie has always done is travel very strongly. Almost all of her runs read travelled strongly or took keen hold. Shes done it on various tracks and various grounds. But that day she simply didn't look herself at all.

But maybe I'm being pessimistic and I do have jade as back up. Plus the likely 3rd fav golden ace isn't running.

[Craigy14]

I'm surprised she got put up to 160 by the handicapper for beating teahupoo

Her FSP was 115% which is super super high

So they've gone an absolute crawl and she a 2m4f/2m horse has out sprinted teahupoo a 3m/2m4f

under those conditions i strongly doubt teahupoo has run anything like he can

Shes not improved 4lb in winning that

the RPRS for the race seem a better judge of what happened giving her 151 and him 149

Jade is 151 and unexposed i reckon she might give her a race

And importantly danny is riding. When these mullins first strings get beaten by a stablemate its almost always when danny is riding.

Remember she won that Hattons Grace in an absolute canter.

She’ll have similar conditions at a track she loves as well.

I think field is stronger this year but don’t think they’ll be good enough to get to her level. The prep isn’t ideal but the Xmas run was decent enough against the best hurdler potentially we’ve ever seen. Obviously the fall last time is the big concern but as long as she’s recovered it doesn’t really bother me too much. She doesn’t know the stats on fallers etc.

[Yosser]

The mares has been that much of a head banger this year i left the top of the market alone. BDA and Lossie, where will they go etc, Jade De Grugy been injured all season and is back at the death, one hurried run and then straight here. It's a bit of a minefield. It's a race i have had to let go by the wayside so only have each way plays on Dysart Enos, Jetara and Gala Marceau. It's one of about 3 races i am weak in. I now have no representative in the Mares Chase after having big prices on Only By Night and Bioluminescence this time last week swiped away in the past few days but C'est La Vie and will hammer something about 20 minutes before. The mares have muddled up my book. I am with Chappers, bin em off!!!!!

[FinalFurlong91]

I'm surprised she got put up to 160 by the handicapper for beating teahupoo

Her FSP was 115% which is super super high

So they've gone an absolute crawl and she a 2m4f/2m horse has out sprinted teahupoo a 3m/2m4f

under those conditions i strongly doubt teahupoo has run anything like he can

Shes not improved 4lb in winning that

the RPRS for the race seem a better judge of what happened giving her 151 and him 149

Jade is 151 and unexposed i reckon she might give her a race

And importantly danny is riding. When these mullins first strings get beaten by a stablemate its almost always when danny is riding.

[DenmanSacre]

Lot of people slating the Lossie decision and rightly so. Connections quiet at moment
Interesting to see who comes out and carry’s it.

FWIW
I blame Townend as all he had to do was tell ricci he wanted to ride her in the champion.
Hes got fucking no chance on state man. And he knows it.
Hooefully Jade stuffs her.
or July
would have doubts about the others.

Joe Chambers not that quiet on Twitter - quite funny his tweet tbf.

Townend not picking her for the Champion doesn't give the greatest vibes for this race either. Much deeper race than last couple of years. She could sluice up again but she wasn't impressive against Teahupoo either. Bad mistake in that race. Slow against CH when I think they'll put a good pace on. Fell last time. Makes the market for the others.

[Irish Rugby]

Lot of people slating the Lossie decision and rightly so. Connections quiet at moment
Interesting to see who comes out and carry’s it.

FWIW
I blame Townend as all he had to do was tell ricci he wanted to ride her in the champion.
Hes got fucking no chance on state man. And he knows it.
Hooefully Jade stuffs her.
or July
would have doubts about the others.

Have to agree with you. I don't wish ill on any man, but I'll be smiling if Lossiemouth gets turned over. She's a fav to get take on with.

If you fancy July Flower then you can't discount Kala Conti. Joyeuse, Jetara, all against a mare that fell last time.

[Quevega]

Lot of people slating the Lossie decision and rightly so. Connections quiet at moment
Interesting to see who comes out and carry’s it.

FWIW
I blame Townend as all he had to do was tell ricci he wanted to ride her in the champion.
Hes got fucking no chance on state man. And he knows it.
Hooefully Jade stuffs her.
or July
would have doubts about the others.

[Bumble]

Golden Ace declared for Champion.

[FinalFurlong91]

There was an interesting bit on RTC the other day

something like last 10 years 110 horses went to Cheltenham on the back of a fall

3 won (2 were black hercules and nichols canyon)

But the interesting thing was that the expected number of winners taking into account the prices they went off was 8

I'd imagine lossie will be the shortest of them all

I'm lucky enough to have a 12.5/1 related double of con hill to win the Xmas hurdle with lossie here but im definitely not counting my chickens on her

[Burrough Hill Man]

20/1 for KALA KONTI looks a cracking ew bet to me.
Yes she's got a bit to find with some but those juveniles from last season were of a very high standard and can see her going well.
Could have also went handicapping but decided on here

[ComplyOrDie]

big figures waiting on the back side, as a Mares backer, don't like that myself.

Gone shorter for this over night too.

She's going Mares.

[darlojim]

Getting very close to final decs and Lossiemouth has once again attracted support for this race on the exchanges, last matched at EVS, all the while drifting again for the Champion Hurdle.

They won't be up discussing it at this time of night. I'm going with decision made, unfortunately.

big figures waiting on the back side, as a Mares backer, don't like that myself.