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2025 Mares Hurdle

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Yosser View Post
    Chappers says Michael O'Leary has text him saying "The Mares will do for us" in regards to Brighterdaysahead. That should please the masses​
    And another season comes around and the best horses that win grade ones over 2 miles are talking about the fucking mares race.
    Still a long way to go and I've no real money in this myself.
    O'Leary would not think twice about changing tack if it suits.
    And I think he likes to play the 'realism' card when he can.

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    • #32
      …Mullins re JdG;

      “She had a setback the other day and is going to miss at least the first half of the season. She’ll stay hurdling for this season anyway as we wouldn’t send her over fences after missing so much of the season.​“

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Eggs View Post
        …Mullins re JdG;

        “She had a setback the other day and is going to miss at least the first half of the season. She’ll stay hurdling for this season anyway as we wouldn’t send her over fences after missing so much of the season.​“
        I'm wondering whether she could go Stayers.......

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          I'm wondering whether she could go Stayers.......
          Like the way you are thinking here Lobos

          Willies already got one for the MH in Kargese and maybe Gala? ….so why add another

          Not quoted as far as can see

          Somebody needs to request a price

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            I'm wondering whether she could go Stayers.......
            I always thought JDG was viewed as a speedier horse than an out an out stayer. I may be wrong with that.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Wayward Lad View Post

              Like the way you are thinking here Lobos

              Willies already got one for the MH in Kargese and maybe Gala? ….so why add another

              Not quoted as far as can see

              Somebody needs to request a price
              All three owned by Alexander as well

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                I always thought JDG was viewed as a speedier horse than an out an out stayer. I may be wrong with that.
                Four runs last year all over further than 2m

                Only beaten once over 2m 1f in MNH at festival

                Won twice over 2 1/2 miles

                However 3m in the stayers is a whole new kettle……

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                • #38
                  The will miss AT LEAST the first half of the season would concern me the most. I can’t see her running anywhere but the mares hurdle if at all if the above is true as they won’t have time to get her up to speed and try a different trip out if it’s likely one run then straight to Cheltenham

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Wayward Lad View Post

                    Four runs last year all over further than 2m

                    Only beaten once over 2m 1f in MNH at festival

                    Won twice over 2 1/2 miles

                    However 3m in the stayers is a whole new kettle……
                    True but 2m and 2 and a half are a lot closer for horses scope than 2 and a half and 3m imo.

                    I’m still writing off the Cheltenham run as the race was run at such a slow pace. It suited neither JDG or Brighterdaysahead. They both have that blend of speed and stamina.

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                    • #40
                      ….just imagine if she beats CH.

                      Last edited by Eggs; 29 November 2024, 12:44 PM.

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                      • #41
                        With the news re JDG and that if she comes back this season then she will not go chasing, then where does this leave Kargese and Gala Marceau ?

                        In Willies stable tour he mentions both as MH candidates, but adds that if Gala jumps well when schooled then she may go MC…..Gala not priced for the MC at the moment

                        Kargese is rated similar to Gala over hurdles yet is a year younger. Same trainer and owner as JDG

                        With BDA probably going for the MH and if so, will probably make the race a true test to try and run the finish out of Golden Ace, then do we think Kargese can stay the 2 1/2 miles of the MH based upon her style of running last season ? Being beaten by Sir Gino by just over 3l doesn’t look so bad after the weekend.

                        At the moment JDG looks on form to have the better chance in the MH, with the higher rating and form over 2 1/2 miles.

                        Could either Kargese or Gala go County instead ?

                        The picture looks chaotic at the moment, but where’s there’s Chaos there’s opportunity and in turn Value !

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                        • #42
                          Bet365 currently have Marie’s Rock evens fav

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BookieBasher View Post
                            Bet365 currently have Marie’s Rock evens fav
                            Only seem to be quoting a handful of races - and have two even money favs for the Albert as well!

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                            • #44
                              If, like me, you believe BDA will definitely go CH then there's value to be had in the Mares Hurdle. Lossiemouth going CH, doubts re JDG, Golden Ace beaten in debut.......If they can get Kargesse to settle then she's the one to beat for me.

                              If however you believe BDA will go MH then it's a closed race imo.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                                If, like me, you believe BDA will definitely go CH then there's value to be had in the Mares Hurdle. Lossiemouth going CH, doubts re JDG, Golden Ace beaten in debut.......If they can get Kargesse to settle then she's the one to beat for me.

                                If however you believe BDA will go MH then it's a closed race imo.
                                So you back Kargese for the MH believing that BDA goes CH (I agree with you as I think she will go CH and that’s why I am looking particularly close at the MH market)

                                You hope that JDG misses the festival as she is higher rated than Kargese and has form at 2 1/2 miles ?

                                and that Gala jumps like a stag and goes MC ?

                                It’s another conundrum where an owner and trainer have three in the race, all with relative chances and logic says that all three will not run in the race !

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