October ‘24 ‘Roger Diamond Geezer Hunter’ Yankee

[Lobos]

What is ‘doing a Vega’?

Not being a very good chaser or living up to the hype.

[Exar Essay]

Not being a very good chaser or living up to the hype.

The signs were there with Vega though. The DRF blow out and even the 2nd in the Supreme. He was only the 4th highest rated novice hurdler that year and was very inconsistent.

His pipe opener aside, Ballyburn looked unbeatable and I think has run to an RPR a stone (!!!) better than any other horse going novice chasing. His pedigree is far more suited to chasing too. It’d be far, far worse than Vega if he had a similar year in my opinion.

[Lobos]

Hope he lives up to expectations EE. Wouldn't be the first or the last if he doesn't though. I know his head carriage concerns a few and I can see why. Won't be long until we all find out. Can't bloody wait !

[Exar Essay]

Hope he lives up to expectations EE. Wouldn't be the first or the last if he doesn't though. I know his head carriage concerns a few and I can see why. Won't be long until we all find out. Can't bloody wait !

Indeed. I’m with you there. It’s going to be a good season. I can’t see him failing bar mishap.

[BigChaang]

Hope he lives up to expectations EE. Wouldn't be the first or the last if he doesn't though. I know his head carriage concerns a few and I can see why. Won't be long until we all find out. Can't bloody wait !

His Head carriage definitely concerns me ,, Although if i am looking for Positives , Reminds me of Klassical Dream ..
and he did win a beginners chase ...

[Eggs]

….Classical Creek is another that is popular across the site, 33-1 CB. Elliott said;

‘He looks like he’ll be a very nice bumper horse this season. He’s going to work at Navan on Thursday morning and that will tell us where we are with him, but I’d say we’ll be looking to start him off in the next few weeks. He’ll stay in bumpers this season.‘

[Irish Rugby]

Really taken with that performance today from Inthepocket. Made Farren Glory look very ordinary. At around 10s for the Arkle, that price seems fair enough, if we're looking for anymore options for this month's Yankee.

[Eggs]

Really taken with that performance today from Inthepocket. Made Farren Glory look very ordinary. At around 10s for the Arkle, that price seems fair enough, if we're looking for anymore options for this month's Yankee.

….getting to the pointy end of the month so good timing to give the thread a bump.

Any post-race comments will be of interest for InthePocket, I suppose there isn’t a definite target as yet.

[Lobos]

Slade Steel BANC

[AaronLad]

Evening all, hope you've all been well.
Haven't done this for a while so apologies if I'm a little rusty.
I think that luccia is overpriced for the Mares hurdle, if Lossiemouth goes champion hurdle, luccia is the mare to beat, right?
3rd in last seasons champion hurdle is a better piece of form than any of the other mares have to offer, I'd argue its better form than anything Lossiemouth has done but the eye is certainly taken out by the way that one has performed to date.
Her only try at 2 1/2 miles came in the open grade 1 at Aintree, in what I think was a fairly decent renewal.
Her 4th that day, 7 and a bit lengths off the front 3 was her running to her rating, and she was slightly inconvenienced having to be taken wide just as they got properly racing, probably cost her a couple of lengths.
I don't think that performance should be viewed as her not getting the trip, I just think she was beaten by the better geldings, I hope Henderson thinks the same.
Luccia is still only 6, there is a chance she could get better, even though i dont think she necessarily has to.
I think the 20/1 that's available is pretty fair all things considered, but with a good run at the weekend that would soon disappear.

[Istabraq]

I think that luccia is overpriced for the Mares hurdle, if Lossiemouth goes champion hurdle, luccia is the mare to beat, right?
3rd in last seasons champion hurdle is a better piece of form than any of the other mares have to offer,

On the face of it that makes sense, but don't we think it was one of the worst champion hurdles on record ?
What does need acknowledging is that Hendo's horses were horrible that week, water infection issues allegedly but I think Luccia was the only one to perform with credit so maybe that performance deserves an upgrade....

[AaronLad]

On the face of it that makes sense, but don't we think it was one of the worst champion hurdles on record ?
What does need acknowledging is that Hendo's horses were horrible that week, water infection issues allegedly but I think Luccia was the only one to perform with credit so maybe that performance deserves an upgrade....

It wasn't a vintage renewal, that's for sure.
But I'd say she finished close enough to a couple of fairly decent horses in irish point and state man.
She also had a few rated in to the 150's pretty soundly beaten that day.
Lossiemouth aside, which mare could've bettered her result in the champion hurdle?
There's novices coming through with potential, but weve seen many times before that potential hasnt quite been fulfilled in open company.
I look at the odds for last years novices and then luccia and i think the value lies with luccia.

[Quevega]

It wasn't a vintage renewal, that's for sure.
But I'd say she finished close enough to a couple of fairly decent horses in irish point and state man.
She also had a few rated in to the 150's pretty soundly beaten that day.
Lossiemouth aside, which mare could've bettered her result in the champion hurdle?
There's novices coming through with potential, but weve seen many times before that potential hasnt quite been fulfilled in open company.
I look at the odds for last years novices and then luccia and i think the value lies with luccia.

I personally wouldn't give the 3rd place in the Champion as much credit as it might look worthy of on first glance.
A very steady middle part of the race on heavy ground, and although she ran well and was close enough to the front 2 who have decent form, the ones in behind were over rated handicappers.
20-1 seems about par probably not that good IMO.
I think if you hang 30-40 to one out on betfair then you'd get takers.

[AaronLad]

I personally wouldn't give the 3rd place in the Champion as much credit as it might look worthy of on first glance.
A very steady middle part of the race on heavy ground, and although she ran well and was close enough to the front 2 who have decent form, the ones in behind were over rated handicappers.
20-1 seems about par probably not that good IMO.
I think if you hang 30-40 to one out on betfair then you'd get takers.

I couldn't disagree the ones in behind aren't what you say they are, but Id still say her 3rd place is better form than that of any of the other mares, bar Lossiemouth.
Would you consider brighterdaysahead beating Staffordshire knot at Aintree better form?

[Lobos]

Agree the CH form stands out re Lucca but sadly for her I'm not at all convinced her stamina will hold out over 2 1/2m around Cheltenham in what is very likely to be at least on the Soft side of Good. She may run a half decent race but she'll find at least 2/3 better than her on the day over the Mares Hurdle distance imo. I couldn't backed her.