If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
Announcement
Collapse
Fat Jockey Patrons
Fat Jockey is a horse racing community focused on all the big races in the UK and Ireland. We don't charge users but if you have found the site useful then any support towards the running costs is appreciated. Become a Patron!
Am expecting Gaelic to go Ryanair but I feel like I shouldn’t be the one to nominate him after recent years (albeit the Arkle redemption arc did make my festival last year)
He'll go CC MOM ......and he'll win it. No way do they go back up in trip at Cheltenham with his RH bias when the switch to 2 worked so spectacularly in March. Just can't see it at all.
Not entirely sure it's as clear cut as that.
We know he's an incredibly versatile horse so is most likely to be the one who makes way for others, Mullins won't be running El Fab, Energumene and GW in the race, I think GWs target will depend on the health of those two and if they're both fit and well come March I don't think we'll see GW on the Wednesday....
Not entirely sure it's as clear cut as that.
We know he's an incredibly versatile horse so is most likely to be the one who makes way for others, Mullins won't be running El Fab, Energumene and GW in the race, I think GWs target will depend on the health of those two and if they're both fit and well come March I don't think we'll see GW on the Wednesday....
My train of thought exactly. Of the 3 leading Willie Champion Chase runners it’s Gaelic who is most versatile and I’m with you in thinking that if the other 2 are fit and firing then GW runs in and probably wins the Ryanair
Guessing where Gaelic Warrior runs?……..have we forgotten last year?…….he was going to run initially in the Stayers Hurdle, fav early doors ante post after connections said he was staying hurdling for a year, then Brown Advisory as they decided he was going chasing and looked to Willie ‘every inch a staying chaser, then the Turners and what a plunge that was!….and then ends up in the Arkle which is for the fastest 2m novice chasers in the land!
and here we are guessing again, having a good debate….…whilst there is a sea of blue on oddschecker for the King George
Versatile he might be but not around Cheltenham IMO. He might have ended up in the Arkle by default but it turned out a genius decision which has not been lost on Willie. He showed no tendancy at all to lug to his right throughout the race which I put down to the speed he was travelling, the number of fences to jump and the distance of the race. They've found the secret to him winning at the Festival after 3 goes at it and they'll not change that recipe now. I think there's more chance of El Fab switching up as they'll be going slower in the Ryanair and he'll be able to jump more efficiently. Energumene might also appreciate stepping up now that he's a bit older and he's always looked like he'd appreciate it to me as the two CC's he won required real stamina in the very deep ground. GW will be the last one that they move IMO. Bring on the Stable Tour!!
Mullins said: "Last season we were trying to make Gaelic Warrior into a three-miler and I had no problem with him going three miles, but he ended up winning the Arkle on his first attempt over fences at two miles.
“He looks a natural to it but he could kick up to be a King George VI Chase horse as well. He had that sort of ability but we will have a chat with Rich [Ricci, owner] first and see what direction he wants to go. He could do any trip – he's an extraordinary horse.
"We have a lot of horses which could go to the King George. Galopin Des Champs will probably be at Leopardstown, where he won last year, but Fact To File could and also Asterion Forlonge, who ran a great race in it a few years ago.”
Can see him running a big race in the KG. Right way round and he'll love the track and fences. Can switch back to 2m at Cheltenham like others in the past.
'He looks a natural to it'........referring to 2 miles.
As Nicky's Stable Tour gives us some confidence that Jeriko De Raponet may be his number 1 Arkle horse, it may be prudent to grab that value now. Very highly touted last year.
I'll give him a vote and against the Irish horses, he's a working man's price.
As Nicky's Stable Tour gives us some confidence that Jeriko De Raponet may be his number 1 Arkle horse, it may be prudent to grab that value now. Very highly touted last year.
I'll give him a vote and against the Irish horses, he's a working man's price.
Yep, 33 available could look nice as the season progresses
Worth a go imo
Personally would not look at GW for a Yankee at this stage.
Whilst I think the Arkle winner should go QM, those that count may disagree and the stable has two proven grade 1 2 milers at senior level.
We don’t know which of the three are thought of as their number 1.
Imo it’s EF right now.
Can see him running a big race in the KG. Right way round and he'll love the track and fences. Can switch back to 2m at Cheltenham like others in the past.
'He looks a natural to it'........referring to 2 miles.
If he won the King George wouldn’t connections be tempted to go GC? We know the owner would love to win the GC. Or is the ‘have to go right handed’ such a key consideration with him?
It would be unique surely as I can’t remember (not great at the best of times!) which horses have won the KC and gone on to run, let alone win the CC in the same season. Although, wouldn’t it normally be after winning/running in the CC that they look to move out in distance and the KC being a good opportunity the year after, not the other way around and within two and half months?
Even the one of, if not the greatest, chaser of my time, Kauto, I’m pretty sure never went back to CC after winning the KG, although he may have won the Tingle Creek afterwards….. but he was a horse of a lifetime blessed with speed and stamina.
The money for the KG has been across the board for Gaelic and he’s even down to 5’s in a couple of places, which is insane in my opinion. I’d have thought Willie had a better candidate of trying 3m for the first time with Il Etait Temps in the KG as he maybe isn’t at his best at Cheltenham?
But what do I know, as i’m still having counselling following last years Gaelic Bingo !
Am expecting Gaelic to go Ryanair but I feel like I shouldn’t be the one to nominate him after recent years (albeit the Arkle redemption arc did make my festival last year)
I maintain from my other post in one of the other yankees that Gaelic should be in for the Ryanair, but he should be in a yankee with the other Mullins of choice in the QMCC (I'd say El Fabiolo, others may say Energumene). The fact he's moving towards the King George basically says they think he will win at whatever distance whereas EF and Energumene have been pigeon holed as 2 milers. It's a proper related double that just makes sense to include
If he won the King George wouldn’t connections be tempted to go GC? We know the owner would love to win the GC. Or is the ‘have to go right handed’ such a key consideration with him?
You would have thought so, but similar to his Champion Chase chances hinging on the health of El Fab and Energumene his Gold Cup chances may well be determined by the health of Galopin des Champs and the target for Fact to File.
So many good horses in the yard one injury and the pack could get shuffled...
We process personal data about users of our site, through the use of cookies and other technologies, to deliver our services, personalize advertising, and to analyze site activity. We may share certain information about our users with our advertising and analytics partners. For additional details, refer to our Privacy Policy.
By clicking "I AGREE" below, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our personal data processing and cookie practices as described therein. You also acknowledge that this forum may be hosted outside your country and you consent to the collection, storage, and processing of your data in the country where this forum is hosted.
Tweet
Comment