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2025 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Killiney View Post

    Don’t forget that all winners of qualifiers automatically get a run. So this may lead to more horses with rating below the previous ‘bottom’ getting in. I don’t think there will be many but it is something to be aware of.
    I think the winners still have to be within the handicap or something daft like that.
    I remember reading it and thinking it didn't really make sense, but just googled and then got fed up.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

      I think the winners still have to be within the handicap or something daft like that.
      I remember reading it and thinking it didn't really make sense, but just googled and then got fed up.
      Yeah they need to be in the handicap proper to get a run. So if The Wallpark runs, some of the lower rated ones may not get in. Someone put up a lower rated horse on a podcast I saw which wouldn't get in it The Wallpark ran and didn't mention the possibility of no run (albeit they'd probably just get balloted out and the bet refunded).

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      • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

        Yeah they need to be in the handicap proper to get a run. So if The Wallpark runs, some of the lower rated ones may not get in. Someone put up a lower rated horse on a podcast I saw which wouldn't get in it The Wallpark ran and didn't mention the possibility of no run (albeit they'd probably just get balloted out and the bet refunded).
        That makes sense the way you've put it.
        Not that good an incentive really.
        Just gaining a preference over any horses on the same mark.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          That makes sense the way you've put it.
          Not that good an incentive really.
          Just gaining a preference over any horses on the same mark.
          I thought 'win and In' would mean they would have to race from outside their handicap mark, but were guaranteed a run. So those low rated animals would still have to race off the minimum weight even if they were entitled to more weight off, due to their marks. Clearly I've got that wrong then

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          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

            I thought 'win and In' would mean they would have to race from outside their handicap mark, but were guaranteed a run. So those low rated animals would still have to race off the minimum weight even if they were entitled to more weight off, due to their marks. Clearly I've got that wrong then
            Plenty of time for the BHA to change the rules again!

            Not sure how many qualifiers there are but are there less qualifiers than runners allowed?

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            • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

              Plenty of time for the BHA to change the rules again!

              Not sure how many qualifiers there are but are there less qualifiers than runners allowed?
              Not ‘changing the rules’ DS, as the correct terminology is ‘clarifying the rules’ !

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              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                I thought 'win and In' would mean they would have to race from outside their handicap mark, but were guaranteed a run. So those low rated animals would still have to race off the minimum weight even if they were entitled to more weight off, due to their marks. Clearly I've got that wrong then
                I must admit that was my take on it. To have a guaranteed place when you are already one of the 24 runners does not make sense to me. I suppose if you have the same rating as the 25 horse then it makes some (but not a lot of) sense.

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                • AaronLad
                  I hope you're watching Road To Cheltenham .... Ruby's summary compared to yours is interesting

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                    AaronLad
                    I hope you're watching Road To Cheltenham .... Ruby's summary compared to yours is interesting
                    Did i just watch 29m15s for Ruby Walsh to say " Is he? Time will tell"
                    Thanks for the heads up kev, should I cash out?


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                    • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                      Did i just watch 29m15s for Ruby Walsh to say " Is he? Time will tell"
                      Thanks for the heads up kev, should I cash out?

                      hahahaaaaa, perfect

                      I nearly told you the time stamp but in my head this way was much funnier

                      Good to know that I'm thinking about you though isn't it

                      I was hoping they were going to expand and analyse (either way) and just nothing.


                      and no don't cash out, I'm on too now remember.... #teamLucky

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                      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                        hahahaaaaa, perfect

                        I nearly told you the time stamp but in my head this way was much funnier

                        Good to know that I'm thinking about you though isn't it

                        I was hoping they were going to expand and analyse (either way) and just nothing.


                        and no don't cash out, I'm on too now remember.... #teamLucky
                        Two for tea now referred to as two for lucky.

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                        • Mystical Power
                          Paddy Power Stayers' Hurdle, 33-1
                          He could run in the Red Mills Hurdle next week and will likely go for the Stayers' Hurdle if he travels over to Cheltenham.​





                          Never before, has highlighting something so early, looked so smart, and been so pointless


                          Same price, half a year on

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            Mystical Power
                            Paddy Power Stayers' Hurdle, 33-1
                            He could run in the Red Mills Hurdle next week and will likely go for the Stayers' Hurdle if he travels over to Cheltenham.​





                            Never before, has highlighting something so early, looked so smart, and been so pointless


                            Same price, half a year on
                            He is a serious EW bet though isn't he? Take the fav out and it's an awful race, truly awful.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              He is a serious EW bet though isn't he? Take the fav out and it's an awful race, truly awful.
                              He'd be the exact opposite of what I'd consider a good each way bet. Could win, could pull up three out. The step up in trip could help, but he's been so awful that he could just be done.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                He is a serious EW bet though isn't he? Take the fav out and it's an awful race, truly awful.
                                He's shown zero to justify a bet

                                So it's guesswork ...




                                Home By The Lee doesn't have 3 better than him?


                                Can see the Lucky Place case that AaronLad made



                                If I had one bet now, it wouldn't be Mystical Power ...

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