2025 Stayers Hurdle

[Carnage at Taunton]

Yes on a whole its very weak, but so is the whole division.
But the uk have a challenger, he is an unexposed 6 year old.
His Cheltenham form is solid
He has a touch of class
His name is lucky place

I hope so Aaron, otherwise I may as well forget the Stayers this year, certainly for now anyway.

[AaronLad]

I hope so Aaron, otherwise I may as well forget the Stayers this year, certainly for now anyway.

Don't worry my friend, he's in good hands

[Carnage at Taunton]

Don't worry my friend, he's in good hands

Do we know why he didn’t run today?
Bit concerned

[AaronLad]

Do we know why he didn’t run today?
Bit concerned

The relkeel was only 24 days ago
my guess would be today came to soon
I'm sure nico would have a good idea whether or not he will stay, and hendo would trust him
I'd say straight there

[ComplyOrDie]

Yes on a whole its very weak, but so is the whole division.
But the uk have a challenger, he is an unexposed 6 year old.
His Cheltenham form is solid
He has a touch of class
His name is lucky place

Seen you mention him a few times, might back him still but not in a rush currently.

I like how hardy he is though think he'll lack the class, personally.

[That Horse]

The relkeel was only 24 days ago
my guess would be today came to soon
I'm sure nico would have a good idea whether or not he will stay, and hendo would trust him
I'd say straight there

There was a Nicky quote RTC posted on twitter saying straight there for LP:

https://x.com/RoadCheltenham/status/1882807923677839566?t=T7HG45kWP4mxjy3nWfm4xw&s=19

[AaronLad]

There was a Nicky quote RTC posted on twitter saying straight there for LP:

https://x.com/RoadCheltenham/status/1882807923677839566?t=T7HG45kWP4mxjy3nWfm4xw&s=19

Cheers mate hadn't seen this.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Thanks very much all

[YoungHustler]

Yes on a whole its very weak, but so is the whole division.
But the uk have a challenger, he is an unexposed 6 year old.
His Cheltenham form is solid
He has a touch of class
His name is lucky place

I would have liked to have seen him over 3m before the Festival to have any real confidence myself, especially as he couldn't pull away from Gowel Road after jumping the last ahead in the Relkeel. However, there's no doubt he is young and improving in a poor division.

[DenmanSacre]

With Gowel Road winning this, is there any chance that the handicappers raise The Wallpark again for the collateral form boost?

Tbh The Wallpark should probably be 2nd fav for this. Mark Walsh didn't put him in the race at Ascot and he came home well. At Cheltenham, he'd be the biggest danger to Teahupoo for me.

JPs got the current 2nd fav for the Pertemps as well so could roll the dice with The Wallpark.

[AaronLad]

With Gowel Road winning this, is there any chance that the handicappers raise The Wallpark again for the collateral form boost?

Tbh The Wallpark should probably be 2nd fav for this. Mark Walsh didn't put him in the race at Ascot and he came home well. At Cheltenham, he'd be the biggest danger to Teahupoo for me.

JPs got the current 2nd fav for the Pertemps as well so could roll the dice with The Wallpark.

didn't he roll the dice already in the long walk?
and he got beat fairly and squarely, the front 2 have hardly boosted the long walk form either.

the wallpark 2nd fav?
bloody hell

[Carnage at Taunton]

didn't he roll the dice already in the long walk?
and he got beat fairly and squarely, the front 2 have hardly boosted the long walk form either.

the wallpark 2nd fav?
bloody hell

HBTL is a worthy challenger, hopefully Lucky Place too,
Struggling after that!!
Certainly not anything from today or the Wallpark imo

[DenmanSacre]

didn't he roll the dice already in the long walk?
and he got beat fairly and squarely, the front 2 have hardly boosted the long walk form either.

the wallpark 2nd fav?
bloody hell

He's 4th favourite at the moment so not far off the front of the market.

2nd fav is Home By The Lee. He's already failed 3 times in this race. Not for me.

3rd fav is Lucky Place. I don't need to state his credentials to you. Nothing wrong with him but the trip is an unknown. First up this year he beat Blueking D'Oroux 1 length, Colonel Mustard 1.75 lengths and Golden Ace 2 lengths. Blueking D'Oroux beat at Ascot and Windsor since. Colonel Mustard smashed up by Kitzbuhel. Golden Ace beaten again by Lucky Place since.

Next up he goes to the Relkeel and beats Gowel Road 0.75 lengths giving him 6 pounds so a 7 pound beating.

Gowel Road, for me, is better over the 3m trip than the 2m4 trip but not much in it.

The Wallpark beat Gowel Road over 3m 2.5 lengths giving 4 pounds and won with an amount in hand.

On a line through Gowel Road, there's not much between Lucky Place and The Wallpark. But you've got a guaranteed stayer in The Wallpark.

Rewatch the Long Walk. Walsh had The Wallpark too far out the back in a start stop pace set by Beauport. Front 3 were near the front and The Wallpark had no chance. He makes a lot of headway after the last with the fastest last 2 furlongs of all the horses in the race. He will devour the hill at Cheltenham, as he's already shown.

Teahupoo is quite a bit clear of the rest but I can't see anything to say The Wallpark wouldn't be close to the best of the rest.

[Carnage at Taunton]

He's 4th favourite at the moment so not far off the front of the market.

2nd fav is Home By The Lee. He's already failed 3 times in this race. Not for me.

3rd fav is Lucky Place. I don't need to state his credentials to you. Nothing wrong with him but the trip is an unknown. First up this year he beat Blueking D'Oroux 1 length, Colonel Mustard 1.75 lengths and Golden Ace 2 lengths. Blueking D'Oroux beat at Ascot and Windsor since. Colonel Mustard smashed up by Kitzbuhel. Golden Ace beaten again by Lucky Place since.

Next up he goes to the Relkeel and beats Gowel Road 0.75 lengths giving him 6 pounds so a 7 pound beating.

Gowel Road, for me, is better over the 3m trip than the 2m4 trip but not much in it.

The Wallpark beat Gowel Road over 3m 2.5 lengths giving 4 pounds and won with an amount in hand.

On a line through Gowel Road, there's not much between Lucky Place and The Wallpark. But you've got a guaranteed stayer in The Wallpark.

Rewatch the Long Walk. Walsh had The Wallpark too far out the back in a start stop pace set by Beauport. Front 3 were near the front and The Wallpark had no chance. He makes a lot of headway after the last with the fastest last 2 furlongs of all the horses in the race. He will devour the hill at Cheltenham, as he's already shown.

Teahupoo is quite a bit clear of the rest but I can't see anything to say The Wallpark wouldn't be close to the best of the rest.

I think to find a horse to beat the fav you probably need to take a chance on an unexposed one at the distance
Which imo is where Lucky Place comes into it.
All the exposed ones just don’t look good enough really.
HBTL has different ways of running at times but catch him on a good day he’s pretty good.

[AaronLad]

He's 4th favourite at the moment so not far off the front of the market.

2nd fav is Home By The Lee. He's already failed 3 times in this race. Not for me.

3rd fav is Lucky Place. I don't need to state his credentials to you. Nothing wrong with him but the trip is an unknown. First up this year he beat Blueking D'Oroux 1 length, Colonel Mustard 1.75 lengths and Golden Ace 2 lengths. Blueking D'Oroux beat at Ascot and Windsor since. Colonel Mustard smashed up by Kitzbuhel. Golden Ace beaten again by Lucky Place since.

Next up he goes to the Relkeel and beats Gowel Road 0.75 lengths giving him 6 pounds so a 7 pound beating.

Gowel Road, for me, is better over the 3m trip than the 2m4 trip but not much in it.

The Wallpark beat Gowel Road over 3m 2.5 lengths giving 4 pounds and won with an amount in hand.

On a line through Gowel Road, there's not much between Lucky Place and The Wallpark. But you've got a guaranteed stayer in The Wallpark.

Rewatch the Long Walk. Walsh had The Wallpark too far out the back in a start stop pace set by Beauport. Front 3 were near the front and The Wallpark had no chance. He makes a lot of headway after the last with the fastest last 2 furlongs of all the horses in the race. He will devour the hill at Cheltenham, as he's already shown.

Teahupoo is quite a bit clear of the rest but I can't see anything to say The Wallpark wouldn't be close to the best of the rest.

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