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2025 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

    Think its plan A for Willie himself as he mentioned it in the stable tour before the season began.
    McManus obviously over ruled, so Willie has showed them who's boss.
    Yes - I think he could also be a player in a slowly run Stayers. I always felt in his novice hurdling season that he had a great turn of foot. Anything tactical might suit.

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    • Originally posted by The Giant Bolster View Post

      Yes - I think he could also be a player in a slowly run Stayers. I always felt in his novice hurdling season that he had a great turn of foot. Anything tactical might suit.
      No real pace in the race this year either.

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      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

        Think its plan A for Willie himself as he mentioned it in the stable tour before the season began.
        McManus obviously over ruled, so Willie has showed them who's boss.
        Absolutely this. He's always wanted him in it. JP probably didn't but has to come round to Willies thinking now having failed over 2m. One thing is for sure....he'll not be a 33/1 shot on the day. Probably go off 2nd fav.

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        • Originally posted by The Giant Bolster View Post

          Yes - I think he could also be a player in a slowly run Stayers. I always felt in his novice hurdling season that he had a great turn of foot. Anything tactical might suit.
          Very tactical race when Teahupoo got turned over the first time. Hopefully he doesn't make the same mistake again but you never know.

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          • Bit of a concern quite how badly he's been beaten both starts this season but seems a fair each way stab at 33s antepost or 25s NRNB. There's so little to like outside of the favourite, that taking a punt on one unexposed over the trip is the cover imo.

            Although I've been stuck with an antepost slip for a while at the same price when he's been looking o a non runner. So maybe I've just convinced myself over time
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            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
              Bit of a concern quite how badly he's been beaten both starts this season but seems a fair each way stab at 33s antepost or 25s NRNB. There's so little to like outside of the favourite, that taking a punt on one unexposed over the trip is the cover imo.

              Although I've been stuck with an antepost slip for a while at the same price when he's been looking o a non runner. So maybe I've just convinced myself over time
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              I've backed it and cashed it twice and backed and laid on betfair.
              Just backed again NRNB
              I'm in 2 minds

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              • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                Bit of a concern quite how badly he's been beaten both starts this season but seems a fair each way stab at 33s antepost or 25s NRNB. There's so little to like outside of the favourite, that taking a punt on one unexposed over the trip is the cover imo.

                Although I've been stuck with an antepost slip for a while at the same price when he's been looking o a non runner. So maybe I've just convinced myself over time
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                is there a without market yet? Be a good Ew bet now in that I'd say.

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                • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                  Not even close to their ability though is he ?
                  Just a jog around to protect his mark for NH chase in March.

                  Definitely hold bets on him also.
                  The prices are too short now and he should really be nearer 50's, and if we get a non runner which is highly likely, you're down to 2 places.
                  So betting today means shit odds for likely 2 places.

                  Obviously could have 3 or 4 pull out but you'd be Rules deducted anyhow.
                  Played it Each Way 1/4 odds 1st 2 without Crambo and Strong Leader @ 16/1 with 365.

                  That's that race sorted for Saturday. 6 to go......

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                    I've backed it and cashed it twice and backed and laid on betfair.
                    Just backed again NRNB
                    I'm in 2 minds
                    You don’t say

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                    • A few on the Forum fancied Strong Leader early doors this year as the each way fancy against Teahupoo at 16/1 and after a too bad to be true run in the Long Walk (for which he has since had wind surgery) he is now 20/1

                      In last years Cleeve he was only beaten a length and a head into third, so concern about handling Cheltenham maybe unfounded? He is still rated higher than Crambo and beat him by a distance at Aintree last year, so tomorrows price must be more around whether the wind surgery has worked than his chances if back to his normal self.

                      20/1 NRMB EW looks the bet as if he wins tomorrow then he halves in price and if he bombs out then Olly has stated that he doesn’t go to the Stayers

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                      • I'm going to say the UK division is piss.

                        Monmiral & Botox Has close enough to Gowel Road there.

                        Woeful.

                        They should try Strong Leader from the front. Never actually put in the race.

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                        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                          I'm going to say the UK division is piss.

                          Monmiral & Botox Has close enough to Gowel Road there.

                          Woeful.

                          They should try Strong Leader from the front. Never actually put in the race.
                          Jockey just said he hates Cheltenham for Strong Leader. Doubt they'll ever run him here again.

                          As you say, weak, weak division.

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                            I'm going to say the UK division is piss.

                            Monmiral & Botox Has close enough to Gowel Road there.

                            Woeful.

                            They should try Strong Leader from the front. Never actually put in the race.
                            Yes on a whole its very weak, but so is the whole division.
                            But the uk have a challenger, he is an unexposed 6 year old.
                            His Cheltenham form is solid
                            He has a touch of class
                            His name is lucky place

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                            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                              I'm going to say the UK division is piss.

                              Monmiral & Botox Has close enough to Gowel Road there.

                              Woeful.

                              They should try Strong Leader from the front. Never actually put in the race.
                              Jockey saying horse doesn't like Cheltenham so Aintree more likely. Wind op worked according to him.

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                              • Originally posted by That Horse View Post

                                Jockey saying horse doesn't like Cheltenham so Aintree more likely. Wind op worked according to him.
                                Wind op must have worked as he ran on at the end
                                But during the race he just looked so slow.
                                Dont blame them for skipping the stayers!!

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