2025 Stayers Hurdle

[Odin]

Haha ignore me then mate I thought there was a 3m Grade 1 at the DRF as well as Xmas.

Edit - might do no harm to bring him over for the Cleeve then see how he handles Cheltenham for a second time.

Ah OK mate thanks - I'd suspect they'd go to the Boyne Hurdle now, same as last year. If I was the owners, I'd then save him for the Aintree 3miler like last year, unless something happens to Teahupoo but that's just me

[Craigy14]

Ah OK mate thanks - I'd suspect they'd go to the Boyne Hurdle now, same as last year. If I was the owners, I'd then save him for the Aintree 3miler like last year, unless something happens to Teahupoo but that's just me

Quite possibly.

Different trainer, being with HDB, I’d say he’d be more inclined to go to Cheltenham.

Nothing to lose going the cleeve though to find out. He goes and wins then you have to take a chance in the Stayers. Loses, then as you say save him for Aintree.

[Saxon Warrior]

For context, I think HVL's seasonal debut, was worthy of taking 30+ on BFX (wouldve taken 25/1 with cashout boost if I was able)

At 16s or lower, for example, this far out, then hes not an antepost bet for me, at this point, nothing is, at that price, to beat Teahupoo, if hes on song and runs.

The bet was price driven vs ability, chance of improvement after so few runs.

Not saying anyone should back him, or ignore him, just to me at that price I took, then hes value (to me) - as it looks like HDB has flipped from going chasing again to having a crack on, over hurdles this season.

With Bob O proving hes not a 3M Grade 1 horse, for Cheltenham, then HVL slots into that position, if Robcour want 2 darts at the race.
They have gone with just Teahupoo the last 2 years, though he was unbeaten in both of those seasons before he ran in the Stayers

Took the price while it was there, in part in case anything happens to the Fav, and I end up losing the antepost bet on him, and price collapses on everything else.

Id love to see HVL and The Wallpark have a go at the race, if its Soft ground.

Lets face it, its not full of superstars, and this race of all the Grade 1 Open Races in March is the one that decent handicappers moving into Graded races, then target (and can win) this race. (the 4 winners before Teahupoo last year, had all come through handicaps and proved they stayed 3M and won this race)

All you need is a 150+ OR horse, that stays 3M, and you can think you have a chance.

Everyone of the last 10 winners was having at least their 9th or 10th hurdles start or sometimes, many more than that, and had proved they stayed 3M before winning this race, so thats a profile I look for and the ones Ive backed at this point fit that bill.

Its the "staying the trip" part that matters most (once youve past the 150+ OR threshold) and had the experience of 8 or more hurdles race prior to this race.

[Quevega]

Slade Steel popping up in the entries would put another spanner in.

[Lobos]

Slade Steel popping up in the entries would put another spanner in.

....and High Class Hero

[ComplyOrDie]

....and High Class Hero

I wonder if he'll give him an entry in the Handicap Hurdle at the DRF over 3m.

[Lobos]

I wonder if he'll give him an entry in the Handicap Hurdle at the DRF over 3m.

Yeah, can see that.

[ComplyOrDie]

Yeah, can see that.

If he wins it off 148 he's worth a shot at the Stayers, if he doesn't it's back to the drawing board.

I have my own ideas about him, but think I'll wait and see where his next entry is, first.

[Lobos]

If he wins it off 148 he's worth a shot at the Stayers, if he doesn't it's back to the drawing board.

I have my own ideas about him, but think I'll wait and see where his next entry is, first.

Willie not block entered him in the all important 2m 5f chase at DRF along with all his other top staying Novice Chasers so he's going to try something different with him me thinks !

[luisgarciaisgod]

Teahupoo bets greyed out on 365, any reason for this if anyone knows?

[Black Dog]

Teahupoo bets greyed out on 365, any reason for this if anyone knows?

It's entries day I believe.

[Benjy23]

Aye, entry day for the Grade 1 open hurdles. Suspect all will be greyed out but not checked...

[Wayward Lad]

What’s the view of where Kitzbuhel will go, if at all, at the festival, as there is not much talk about him on the Forum and he seems progressive?

He is entered at Windsor on Friday (AP fav at the moment) and this will be his 5th hurdle race so would qualify for the County and Coral Cup.

Not priced for the Coral Cup, around 11/1 fav for the County and 20/1 for the Stayers (will be interesting if he is entered)

Owned by the Donellys, could he do another State Man in the County?…..or are they looking on Fridays entry to see if he stayers further in order to give them other options?

[darlojim]

What’s the view of where Kitzbuhel will go, if at all, at the festival, as there is not much talk about him on the Forum and he seems progressive?

He is entered at Windsor on Friday (AP fav at the moment) and this will be his 5th hurdle race so would qualify for the County and Coral Cup.

Not priced for the Coral Cup, around 11/1 fav for the County and 20/1 for the Stayers (will be interesting if he is entered)

Owned by the Donellys, could he do another State Man in the County?…..or are they looking on Fridays entry to see if he stayers further in order to give them other options?

Was my hcap dark horse for the year but shown his cards a little too much on Ire debut. Willie could have had him half cooked and would have been a shoe in for a hcap at the festival

He isnt entered in the Stayers but has an entry in the Champ hdle.
Id like to think he still has plenty in hand in improvement still and will be very interesting to see where he is next declared.

[darlojim]

Stellar Story 20s (22s boosted) NRNB in the Stayers I've taken. Could well be rerouted back over hurdles after making some right howlers