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2025 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
    At the risk of sounding like a broken record with this shit... 20/1 NRNB is probably a fair each way play. Sounds like he either impressed on trials day and probably goes into the race as 2F, or he disappoints trials day and you get your money back. I'm going to do it tomorrow anyway
    I’d say that sounds like a very fair price for anyone wanting to get involved now, especially if his last run proves excusable.

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    • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
      At the risk of sounding like a broken record with this shit... 20/1 NRNB is probably a fair each way play. Sounds like he either impressed on trials day and probably goes into the race as 2F, or he disappoints trials day and you get your money back. I'm going to do it tomorrow anyway
      Is each way the right play ?
      Is there not an argument for win only if there are questions marks around fitness/participation ?

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      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

        Is each way the right play ?
        Is there not an argument for win only if there are questions marks around fitness/participation ?
        As a NRNB against a very strong favourite I'd say so in this case. And I've a usual preference for win only to be honest

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        • 20/1 NRNB sounds inviting but I'd be saving him for Aintree myself,all his form comes on flat tracks,give him a hill or undulation and it goes awry for him.

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          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

            As a NRNB against a very strong favourite I'd say so in this case. And I've a usual preference for win only to be honest
            Fair enough.
            Just out of interest when do the 'without fav' markets come out and would they be NRNB too ?
            I can seem myself getting interested in backing him in the w/o market for multi's if vibes are positive...

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            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
              At the risk of sounding like a broken record with this shit... 20/1 NRNB is probably a fair each way play. Sounds like he either impressed on trials day and probably goes into the race as 2F, or he disappoints trials day and you get your money back. I'm going to do it tomorrow anyway
              Yep totally agree
              No doubt he’s better than last run, he’s proved that. So obviously he weren’t right.
              The 20/1 nrmb is worth a punt to find out if he’s back to his best form.

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              • Hiddenvalley Lake

                Hasn't had many Hurdles runs at all (7 runs)

                Missed a wedge of time, and pretty unexposed.

                One run in a Chase.

                Henry mentioned him going back chasing in all his October Stable Tours.

                Then a couple of months later, up he pops in the Grade 1 Long Walk Hurdle and all but wins it, finishing off the race well, and looking a real stayer

                2 years ago, he leapt to the head of the Albert Bartlett market with a blazing finish to win a Grade 3 NovH over 3M, but didnt go on at that time.

                Heard some mention that 365 were/are? - doing a 25% price boost on the Champion Hurdle, Champion Chase, Stayers Hurdle and Gold Cup.

                Boosting HVL to 25/1 would make sense from the way he ran at Ascot last month, if anyone has a 365 account and that Boost is still there.

                I think he could beat Crambo, and have more improvement to come, from the way that race was run, and The Wallpark (particularly on Soft/Heavy) could too.

                Last edited by Saxon Warrior; Yesterday, 10:04 PM.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
                  Hiddenvalley Lake

                  Hasn't had many Hurdles runs at all (7 runs)

                  Missed a wedge of time, and pretty unexposed.

                  One run in a Chase.

                  Henry mentioned him going back chasing in all his October Stable Tours.

                  Then a couple of months later, up he pops in the Grade 1 Long Walk Hurdle and all but wins it, finishing off the race well, and looking a real stayer

                  2 years ago, he leapt to the head of the Albert Bartlett market with a blazing finish to win a Grade 3 NovH over 3M, but didnt go on at that time.

                  Heard some mention that 365 were/are? - doing a 25% price boost on the Champion Hurdle, Champion Chase, Stayers Hurdle and Gold Cup.

                  Boosting HVL to 25/1 would make sense from the way he ran at Ascot last month, if anyone has a 365 account and that Boost is still there.

                  I think he could beat Crambo, and have more improvement to come, from the way that race was run, and The Wallpark (particularly on Soft/Heavy) could too.
                  8 runs under rules at 8 years of age, as you say missed a wedge of time, I wouldn't know the reasons why but it's hard to think they're positive.

                  Beaten Last 3 times over 3miles, recording the exact rpr last twice, isn't screaming unexposed or potential improver to me.

                  Only appearance at Cheltenham, beaten 45lengths in the albert bartlett..

                  same ownership as the reigning champion and hot favourite...

                  is this nrnb you're suggesting as this appears a very risky shout ante post for you sax ....

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