2025 Triumph Hurdle

[darlojim]

For anyone with the price they have on Lulamba

and no price on East India Dock


Would you rather your slip on Lulamba with the ratings as they are

or leave the ratings as they are, but have your Lulamba price on East India Dock



I know which I would

You've overcomplicated that haven't you? Both statements saying the rating is staying the same

Basically would you rather have the price on Lulamba or EID?

[Kevloaf]

You've overcomplicated that haven't you? Both statements saying the rating is staying the same

Basically would you rather have the price on Lulamba or EID?

Haha no


People have Lulamba at double figures

and not East India Dock



I think literally everyone on Lulamba would swap the name to EID



I don't think anyone on here, has East India Dock at big prices, but Lulamba at short prices


What I am saying it, people are knocking EID or defending Lulamba, but it's pocket talk

[darlojim]

Ahh I'd say a few must have EID at prices on here? And wouldn't have thought that many have Lulamba?

In answer to your question though, no I wouldnt swap over to EID.

That argument will be backed up festival week if they stay around the similar price range, where I'll top up on Lulamba with some winnings.

I remember this was an exact replica of the Burdett Rd / Sir Gino prior to their match up, that soon got squashed

** And on the pocket talk, is it not people just backing their own opinions?

[Kevloaf]

Hopefully they are

For me, pocket talk is when you've got a price about a horse bigger than it is now so you can't see the other view point or just stubbornly stick to it


I'm not actively digging anyone out for it .... I have much bigger Lulamba prices than East India Dock and I know I'd switch them if I could

The opinion that Lulamba is better than East India Dock, is incorrect on everything we have seen so far, in my opinion.

I hope I'm wrong and Lulamba wins, unless I re-adjust my positions but it's harder when the rightful favourite, is favourite



.....and Hello Neighbour does them both





but to answer your simplified question, I'd definitely rather have East India Dock over Lulamba at the same price.... and it'd be a fast way to going broke if you went for hype over form generally, albeit a juvenile is more likely to be in the favour of the unproven being better than if we were talking about 10 year old handicap chasers

[darlojim]

I get why people like the horse, i just dont think the form is all that and im happy to side with the potential that Lulamba could be something out of the ordinary.

I let my opinion known on Stencil earlier in the season when he was looking sharp and was on the money there, but as we all know, we are all wrong more times than right in this game

The sooner Lulamba spits him out the sooner we can move on to the next debate

[Kevloaf]

I get why people like the horse, i just dont think the form is all that and im happy to side with the potential that Lulamba could be something out of the ordinary.

I let my opinion known on Stencil earlier in the season when he was looking sharp and was on the money there, but as we all know, we are all wrong more times than right in this game

The sooner Lulamba spits him out the sooner we can move on to the next debate

Yep

We all know who is on Stencil for the Fred Winter

and who is on Lulamba at big prices


We all know where it came from

[darlojim]

Yep

We all know who is on Stencil for the Fred Winter

and who is on Lulamba at big prices


We all know where it came from

You've lost me

[Saxon Warrior]

Haha, even as a ratings fan, although don't use Timeform much, this made me laugh.

How on earth have they come up with that?

In this horses case it’s either

* the over-rating of French form,( think that was with Sony Bill, who has done better in Ireland than Sauvignon has here)

or

* a complete capitulation of the horse on English racecourses - as he’s been a no show in England, twice now, and not up to 100 rating let alone 130’s.

Timeform’s rating of Sauvignon has nothing to do with his races over here, thats for sure.

Just shows that whatever they cost, or whose bought them, or training them, until they actually run over here you dont know for sure, whether you’ve got a Lulamba style debut or a Sauvignon style debut on their first go in Juvenile Hurdles here.

Lets face it most big money purchases everywhere, from England, Ireland, France, etc… end up disappointing vs purchase price/hopes, on the flat, over hurdles or chasing, and we fortunately get to celebrate and cheer home, those few who go on to achieve what the purchasers hoped for, and more.