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2025 Champion Chase

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  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

    If he's 10s or 12s i could see it

    But 6s is way too short

    I'd rather back solness

    He could do what he did the last twice if they give him too much rope on the front end

    Or even energumene

    If jonbon was to flop I'd think energumene was the likeliest to take advantage of it. If it's soft ground of course.
    Big chance of a pace burn up.
    the staying types much more favoured
    fascination race in prospect
    Might even have more than 8 runners.
    could be chaos

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

      Quite simple really. Proper Soft ground or worse equals CC and anything drier he goes Ryanair. Will be a force in either race.
      I’d say that’s likely to be absolutely spot on.

      As long as you meant to say won’t rather than will.

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

        If he's 10s or 12s i could see it

        But 6s is way too short

        I'd rather back solness

        He could do what he did the last twice if they give him too much rope on the front end

        Or even energumene

        If jonbon was to flop I'd think energumene was the likeliest to take advantage of it. If it's soft ground of course.
        Is that the same Solness that’s stuffed him twice now?
        if so absolutely!!!

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        • Today was Solness' 7th run of this campaign starting out at Listowel in September. He'd also ran 15th of 22 in The Galway Plate at the end of July.

          Ok, he's got 5 weeks now to Cheltenham but I wonder if he can keep this top class form going?

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          • Mullins debrief on Gaelic:

            "It looked like he was going to pull up down the back straight. There might be an explanation for that later on, so we'll see. I had a hood on him today, but maybe he doesn't need it anymore."

            Racing post had this to say:

            "vet reported gelding to have a small skin wound over lateral sesamoid left fore but to be otherwise post race normal"



            I wouldn't be looking to back him now, but he didn't run his race today - even compared to Xmas - with the way he dropped back on the back straight. Next run will tell me more - everyone knows I think he should have been in the Ryanair but even that looks wrong now as he wouldn't beat fact to file!

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            • Originally posted by Odin View Post
              Mullins debrief on Gaelic:

              "It looked like he was going to pull up down the back straight. There might be an explanation for that later on, so we'll see. I had a hood on him today, but maybe he doesn't need it anymore."

              Racing post had this to say:

              "vet reported gelding to have a small skin wound over lateral sesamoid left fore but to be otherwise post race normal"



              I wouldn't be looking to back him now, but he didn't run his race today - even compared to Xmas - with the way he dropped back on the back straight. Next run will tell me more - everyone knows I think he should have been in the Ryanair but even that looks wrong now as he wouldn't beat fact to file!
              In a Racing TV interview they (Mullins quoting Townend) said the ground was riding fast and he was taken off his feet as a horse who needs soft ground.

              Looks another where the ground could determine which race they go.

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              • Starting to look the Irish challenge will be lead by Solness.
                Unless it’s heavy ground.
                Hoping IEF turns up here for the French.
                Need some competition for Jonbon.

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                • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
                  Starting to look the Irish challenge will be lead by Solness.
                  Unless it’s heavy ground.
                  Hoping IEF turns up here for the French.
                  Need some competition for Jonbon.
                  Solness and Il Est Francais would be great for the race, and potentially set it up for a monster performance from Jonbon

                  Win-squared

                  Be good to see!

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                    Solness and Il Est Francais would be great for the race, and potentially set it up for a monster performance from Jonbon

                    Win-squared

                    Be good to see!
                    Yep, I think we really need those two
                    No hiding place type of race over 2m!!
                    That gets the pulse going.

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                    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
                      Starting to look the Irish challenge will be lead by Solness.
                      Unless it’s heavy ground.
                      Hoping IEF turns up here for the French.
                      Need some competition for Jonbon.
                      If it's Soft or worse both Gaelic and IEF will be going CC. Spring ground and we'll see those two in the Ryanair.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        If it's Soft or worse both Gaelic and IEF will be going CC. Spring ground and we'll see those two in the Ryanair.
                        Yep, the size and I guess the quality of the line up looks to be ground depending

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                        • Originally posted by Runragged View Post

                          In a Racing TV interview they (Mullins quoting Townend) said the ground was riding fast and he was taken off his feet as a horse who needs soft ground.

                          Looks another where the ground could determine which race they go.
                          Cheers - doesn't really matter now though imo.

                          Been in his corner all year but he won't win the Ryanair if Fact To File is there and despite me spending all year thinking a front runner would give him the perfect lead, apparently he doesn't want the pace too fast either!

                          Maybe Rooster Booster was right all along..... (except for on extreme heavy going)

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                          • Is F2F that a certainty for the Ryanair? He didn't beat Spillanes Tower by much and he seems to be unfancied on here.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                              Is F2F that a certainty for the Ryanair? He didn't beat Spillanes Tower by much and he seems to be unfancied on here.
                              I'd say not a certainty, but one of the leading players, should he turn up for the race.

                              Nothing wrong with Spillanes Tower except Jimmy Mangan said he didn't think he travelled well over to Kempton for the King George.

                              Not ideal for a horse not to be a good traveller when coming over to Cheltenham, albeit they could come over a fair bit earlier to give him time to settle.

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                              • Originally posted by Odin View Post

                                Cheers - doesn't really matter now though imo.

                                Been in his corner all year but he won't win the Ryanair if Fact To File is there and despite me spending all year thinking a front runner would give him the perfect lead, apparently he doesn't want the pace too fast either!

                                Maybe Rooster Booster was right all along..... (except for on extreme heavy going)
                                Haha even a stopped clock is right twice a day….

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