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2025 Champion Chase

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Jonbon is far better than that
    Not around Cheltenham though according to lot of people

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    • Originally posted by OffTheBridle View Post

      Not around Cheltenham though according to lot of people
      Bloody nutters.

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      • Originally posted by OffTheBridle View Post

        Not around Cheltenham though according to lot of people
        We get this with every decent horse that doesn't win at the Cheltenham Festival in their first one or two runs there.

        Gaelic Warrior was one knocked for not being as good at Cheltenham (and Left Handed courses generally), then he wallops them by the length of a tennis court (or more) in the Arkle, and put that idea to bed.

        Jonbon, I wouldn't worry about him at Cheltenham, his record is pretty sound there.

        It's more what the opposition will be, and can do, that makes him a winner or not in the QMCC in March, rather than the course.
        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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        • I'd question that Sax. There's no doubt his record at Cheltenham is very good and at the highest level BUT it's a few pounds better elsewhere which unfortunately for him makes all the difference when he takes on the very best at Prestbury Park.

          I think that's very fair....... even from me !

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          • I think Jonbon is a very good horse. The problem i have is that i don't think he will reach his potential over 2 miles. He looks awkward trying to jump fences at pace. Longer trip, slower tempo and i think he becomes a better horse.

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            • Originally posted by Yosser View Post
              I think Jonbon is a very good horse. The problem i have is that i don't think he will reach his potential over 2 miles. He looks awkward trying to jump fences at pace. Longer trip, slower tempo and i think he becomes a better horse.
              I'd agree. The problem is, I'm struggling to see what beats him prior to Cheltenham so he's unlikely to line up anywhere other than the Champion Chase. I suppose Willie could send one over to the Game Spirit if they go that route.

              I've backed him for the Ryanair but regretting that at the moment

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              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                I'd agree. The problem is, I'm struggling to see what beats him prior to Cheltenham so he's unlikely to line up anywhere other than the Champion Chase. I suppose Willie could send one over to the Game Spirit if they go that route.

                I've backed him for the Ryanair but regretting that at the moment
                Jonbon going to Ascot for the Clarence House. WM does send his over for that race, would not be surprised to see Energumene.

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                • Originally posted by Yosser View Post
                  I think Jonbon is a very good horse. The problem i have is that i don't think he will reach his potential over 2 miles. He looks awkward trying to jump fences at pace. Longer trip, slower tempo and i think he becomes a better horse.
                  Yep, his record over 2m is very impressive, but I think he would be even better over further, and I would like to see him try the King George.

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                  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                    Jonbon going to Ascot for the Clarence House. WM does send his over for that race, would not be surprised to see Energumene.
                    That'll be enough for Hendo to change plans and go to the Game Spirit then

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                    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                      That'll be enough for Hendo to change plans and go to the Game Spirit then
                      Hahaha…..he won’t change plans, he’s going same plan as last season, hopefully it works out this time!!

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                      • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                        Hahaha…..he won’t change plans, he’s going same plan as last season, hopefully it works out this time!!
                        Are you Mick Fitzgerald?

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                        • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                          Are you Mick Fitzgerald?
                          Good grief no

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                          • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                            I'd agree. The problem is, I'm struggling to see what beats him prior to Cheltenham so he's unlikely to line up anywhere other than the Champion Chase. I suppose Willie could send one over to the Game Spirit if they go that route.

                            I've backed him for the Ryanair but regretting that at the moment
                            Based on what we've seen with our own eyes this season then I think Quilixios could test him in the Tingle Creek. 33/1 for the Champion Chase seems generous. Especially when you consider Marine National is 14/1 who he battered 10 days ago at Naas over 2m. Just saying !

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                            • I think there’s a danger of people over egging Quillixios’ win last weekend, he was nothing short of horrible in last seasons Arkle and as a chaser he looks well off G1 level to me, even UK G1 without the Irish….

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                              • The WTAF price on Quillixios will be huge......150/1 or more?

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