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2025 Champion Chase

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    Found A Fifty may run next in 2m Fortria Chase at Navan.
    50/1 standout with Corals/Laddies

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    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
      Anyone heard anything re Gaelic Warrior maybe coming over for the Tingle Creek?
      Cant seem to find anything myself
      Haven't heard for sure but the chances of Willie starting a good one in England is highly unlikely , just something he had said he avoids if at all possible run 1.

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      • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

        Haven't heard for sure but the chances of Willie starting a good one in England is highly unlikely , just something he had said he avoids if at all possible run 1.
        Would he not have had a run before that though ?

        Edit...It's only 5 weeks away so maybe not.

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        • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

          Haven't heard for sure but the chances of Willie starting a good one in England is highly unlikely , just something he had said he avoids if at all possible run 1.
          Thank you R4H
          Much appreciated

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          • 4 rivals for Marine Nationale at Naas on Sunday. Should be a formality for him at the weights, but we know racing doesn't work that way. Suspect Hercule Du Seuil will be revved up for it, and will very likely get his ground.

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            • Somewhat a forgotten horse Marine. Was the talk of the town until he blew out that day. Couldn't be backing before I've seen him in a proper race.

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              • Marine Nationale being chopped in as we speak. A general 8/1 now. Bookies eh??!!

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  Marine Nationale being chopped in as we speak. A general 8/1 now. Bookies eh??!!
                  Be mad to take that imo
                  As well as his last run we saw, the competition is very high standard imo

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                  • Marine has been as big as 250-1 on betfair for the ryanair. around 70/80 to 1 now.
                    I know the plan is the Champion, but he could easily be one that gets beat on the way to March and they decide to try and get improvement for the extra yardage.
                    Unless he's awful, then those prices are worth small cover bets I reckon.

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                    • 4/9 opening price is way too skinny for Marine Nationale for the race on Sunday.

                      Hercule @ 11/2 I've played E/W, but Marine Nationale is going to have firstly got over his issues & secondly be revved up to go with Hercule on his preferred ground, IMO.

                      Quilixios has always looked like needing more cut in the ground though Henry's horses are in fine form!

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                        4/9 opening price is way too skinny for Marine Nationale for the race on Sunday.

                        Hercule @ 11/2 I've played E/W, but Marine Nationale is going to have firstly got over his issues & secondly be revved up to go with Hercule on his preferred ground, IMO.

                        Quilixios has always looked like needing more cut in the ground though Henry's horses are in fine form!
                        He's getting 9lb from Hercule so he either wins or bombs out IMO. I can't see anything in between. An RPR of 150 would probably be good enough which would still be nearly 2 stone shy of where a QMCC would be. Ground won't be an excuse.

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                        • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                          He's getting 9lb from Hercule so he either wins or bombs out IMO. I can't see anything in between. An RPR of 150 would probably be good enough which would still be nearly 2 stone shy of where a QMCC would be. Ground won't be an excuse.
                          Hercule hit RPR's of 150+ 5 times last season novice chasing. I'm not sure 150 will cut it. Hercule has every right to improve as well.

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                            Hercule hit RPR's of 150+ 5 times last season novice chasing. I'm not sure 150 will cut it. Hercule has every right to improve as well.
                            Yes with a top rating of 158. My point being if Marine is getting 9lb, 150 would be sufficient to better Hercule's best performance to date. Hercule is less likely to improve in my opinion having had 8 chase starts and showing a plateau in his performances but of course, he could do.

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                            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                              Yes with a top rating of 158. My point being if Marine is getting 9lb, 150 would be sufficient to better Hercule's best performance to date. Hercule is less likely to improve in my opinion having had 8 chase starts and showing a plateau in his performances but of course, he could do.
                              I realised after I replied I hadn't taken into account the weight difference

                              Still expect Hercule to improve, personally, maybe not as much as MN. Marine Nationale has more to prove, based on how last season ended, IMO, which is also why 4/9 is an awful price.

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                              • Not disgraced after a year off. I think Marine will come on a lot for that

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