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2025 Champion Chase

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  • #46
    Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
    Looks like twitter has found out about the OJA story now so reckon GW could end up getting clipped in
    5/1 ante on gaelic warrior this far out just isn't appealing to me, unless you're lucky enough to get him in a solid roll up.

    Wouldn't surprise me at all if he ended up going 2m, 2 and half or 3m+ this season

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    • #47
      Originally posted by darlojim View Post

      nahh nothing
      Pushed a guys tweet to try and get things moving...

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      • #48
        Originally posted by darlojim View Post

        5/1 ante on gaelic warrior this far out just isn't appealing to me, unless you're lucky enough to get him in a solid roll up.

        Wouldn't surprise me at all if he ended up going 2m, 2 and half or 3m+ this season
        Hard to see who else will be Mullins 2m chaser. Can’t entertain Energumene or El Fab at this stage knowing what we know.

        On a side note I would say GW, F2F, Galopin are Mullins 3 best open chasers for the season.

        2m, 2m4f, 3m+

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        • #49
          Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post

          Hard to see who else will be Mullins 2m chaser. Can’t entertain Energumene or El Fab at this stage knowing what we know.

          On a side note I would say GW, F2F, Galopin are Mullins 3 best open chasers for the season.

          2m, 2m4f, 3m+
          Theres been no confirmation regarding el fabiolos well being yet, and definitely not that hes fully OFTS

          Its a market i wouldnt be entertaining right now until some clarity on EF

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          • #50
            Energumene on track for December return is the headline on RP site.

            Anyone got the full write up ?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              Energumene on track for December return is the headline on RP site.

              Anyone got the full write up ?
              The ten-year-old was last seen scoring in Grade 1 company at Punchestown in April 2023 before his injury surfaced 12 months ago when undergoing preparations for last season.

              He is now nearing a return to the track and could reappear in the Hilly Way Chase at Cork, a contest in which he made a winning return to action in 2021 and 2022, but connections are taking things slowly with their star chaser.

              Sean Graham, racing manager to owner Tony Bloom, said: "Energumene was obviously off last year and had a long rest. He has been brought along very slowly and everything is good with him so far.

              "We don't have firm plans with him, as we are taking it day by day. If everything goes according to plan, we could look at the Hilly Way.

              "You've got the option of travelling to England for the Shloer Chase or waiting for Leopardstown at Christmas, but the Hilly Way has been a good starting point for him. I wouldn't tie down any option, but all is well at the moment."

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              • #52
                Many thanks FF

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                • #53
                  With the news about El Fabiolo it got me looking closer at the Champ Chase market to see where there is any value, if any…..

                  Looking at the trends then there has been a few turn ups over the last 10 years and many big priced horses placed, maybe an indication of the dearth of top class 2m chasers?

                  Mullins Bingo I know but my eye has been drawn to Dinoblue at 33/1

                  Case for;
                  - where is she going to run at Cheltenham, if at all? I’d suggest she is too highly rated for a handicap?
                  - maybe she doesn’t truly stay 2 1/2 miles?
                  - does she want to run against some potential quality mid distance stayers in Jade De Grugy and Brighterdaysahead in the Mares chase this season?
                  - she improved around a stone in her second season as a chaser last year (diff between OR and RPR)
                  - in Feb last year she beat the 2023 Champion Chase winner Captain Guinness over 2m getting only her 7lb allowance, albeit both being trounced by El Fabiolo
                  - in Apr last year she got beat by Captain Guinness by just over a length, once again getting her 7lb allowance, both though being beaten a whisker by Banbridge.
                  - for the Mares chase JP has Impervious if fit to return to racing and still only 8 years old
                  - Dinoblue is only 7 so could show further improvement? (with her 7lbs allowance she would only need to improve another 7lbs to trouble the top rated 2m chasers)
                  - Found a Fifty maybe doesn’t come here, supported by his recent entry in a 3m chase on 2nd Nov?
                  - Il Etait Temps maybe doesn’t show his true form at the track or/and steps up in distance to the Ryanair?
                  - Energumene will have to defy many age trends currently being 10 years old, with many in the Forum believing he may step up in trip to the Ryanair
                  - El Fabiolo does throw in the odd howler even if he does get to the race fully fit. Also many on the Forum think he may step up in trip to the Ryanair.
                  - the Arkle form has been questioned on the Forum as being below normal standard

                  Case against;
                  - El Fabiolo may only have a minor setback and his rating and age make him fav in my book. He is a year younger than Jonbon.
                  - Jonbon is currently fav and presumed to be focusing on 2m this year. On ratings would have beaten Captain Guinness in last years Champ Chase. If he gets to the race then he surely will be fav or 2nd fav?
                  - Gaelic Warrior is the new 2m kid on the block and could easily show the required improvement in his second season as a chaser
                  - Energumene doesn’t appear to have been over raced as a 10 year old and if retaining his form would have a great chance
                  - Impervious may run in the Ryanair (if fit) leaving Dinoblue to represent JP in the Mares chase
                  - being a year older she may see out the 2 1/2 miles Mares Chase distance better and improve as she is only 7
                  - she has the form in the book for the Mares chase with Jade De Grugy and Brighterdaysahead all about ‘potential’

                  Whilst I don’t think Dinoblue can beat a race fit El Fabiolo, Jonbon or Energumene, then based upon some poor fields in previous Champ Chases, history would indicate that these three plus Gaelic Warrior may not all turn up in March. Even if one or two did I could easily see her placed and therefore 33/1 is way too big in my opinion.

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                  • #54
                    El Fabiolo reportedly on the gallops this morning/yesterday according to Josh Stacey. So injury looking like being very minor

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by BookieBasher View Post
                      El Fabiolo reportedly on the gallops this morning/yesterday according to Josh Stacey. So injury looking like being very minor
                      Good news.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by BookieBasher View Post
                        El Fabiolo reportedly on the gallops this morning/yesterday according to Josh Stacey. So injury looking like being very minor
                        To quote of us, sweet cherry nipples!!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post

                          To quote of us, sweet cherry nipples!!
                          Remember I've got that patented.

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                          • #58
                            Ruby saying El Fab still top of the pile for 2m in Closutton

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                              Ruby saying El Fab still top of the pile for 2m in Closutton
                              This time last year he was around 3/1 for the Champion Chase I think, do you (or anyone) think 6/1 is value now ?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                                This time last year he was around 3/1 for the Champion Chase I think, do you (or anyone) think 6/1 is value now ?
                                Nope not a market I'm one bit interested in right now.

                                Happy to see how it plays out a little, but I am of the opinion he will end up champ chase bound and Gaelic ryanair

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