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  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
    Can't see gaelic winning either race myself

    We've seen plenty of him now. Just not good enough.

    He usually runs to high 150s low 160s. He got a big figure for the arkle but that was a poor race and it fell apart. That figure was very much the exception rather than the rule.

    He won't beat jonbon if jonbon runs his race and he could face fact to file or il est francais in the Ryanair.
    Yep agree, just not good enough
    Seems to get more allowances than he really should imo

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    • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
      Can't see gaelic winning either race myself

      We've seen plenty of him now. Just not good enough.

      He usually runs to high 150s low 160s. He got a big figure for the arkle but that was a poor race and it fell apart. That figure was very much the exception rather than the rule.

      He won't beat jonbon if jonbon runs his race and he could face fact to file or il est francais in the Ryanair.
      But his last two races have been at Leopardstown which you can easily put a line through. Judge him on his Cheltenham festival performances.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Quite simple really. Proper Soft ground or worse equals CC and anything drier he goes Ryanair. Will be a force in either race.
        Admire your stick ability, but he’s just not a top class 2 miler on what I’ve seen
        Wont even bother covering unless he reaches a more realistic price

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        • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

          Yep agree, just not good enough
          Seems to get more allowances than he really should imo
          Harsh. Everything looks to have been geared towards a big performance at the festival with him this year. He'll be trained to perfection in March where it counts.

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          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

            Admire your stick ability, but he’s just not a top class 2 miler on what I’ve seen
            Wont even bother covering unless he reaches a more realistic price
            He already is one isn't he ?

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            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

              Yep agree, just not good enough
              Seems to get more allowances than he really should imo
              I'm surprised people are so forgiving of him

              Hes been an antepost nightmare for his fans

              Lost in the boodles
              Then saw him put up antepost for the bartlett, ballymore and supreme and he lost
              Then he was the stayers cert and loads were on and went chasing
              he then gets backed for the BANC, then the Turners just for him to run in and win the arkle

              I'm very fortunate iv only backed him twice, the boodles and just after decs for the arkle

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                He already is one isn't he ?
                No he’s not, lots to prove

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                • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                  No he’s not, lots to prove
                  I meant the price....

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                  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                    I'm surprised people are so forgiving of him

                    Hes been an antepost nightmare for his fans

                    Lost in the boodles
                    Then saw him put up antepost for the bartlett, ballymore and supreme and he lost
                    Then he was the stayers cert and loads were on and went chasing
                    he then gets backed for the BANC, then the Turners just for him to run in and win the arkle

                    I'm very fortunate iv only backed him twice, the boodles and just after decs for the arkle
                    Yeah I know
                    oh well!!

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                    • Probably not a good idea for me to do that, he's let me down twice at the Festival

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        I meant the price....
                        Price is far too short for me on what I’ve seen of him this season
                        But fill yer boots my friend
                        I genuinely hope you don’t though

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                        • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                          Price is far too short for me on what I’ve seen of him this season
                          But fill yer boots my friend
                          I genuinely hope you don’t though
                          Already backed before Arkle at 40's so not going in again. I'm not sure he'll drift out to that price though Carnage!

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            Already backed before Arkle at 40's so not going in again. I'm not sure he'll drift out to that price though Carnage!
                            okey dokey, fair enough

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                            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                              Price is far too short for me on what I’ve seen of him this season
                              But fill yer boots my friend
                              I genuinely hope you don’t though
                              If he's 10s or 12s i could see it

                              But 6s is way too short

                              I'd rather back solness

                              He could do what he did the last twice if they give him too much rope on the front end

                              Or even energumene

                              If jonbon was to flop I'd think energumene was the likeliest to take advantage of it. If it's soft ground of course.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                Already backed before Arkle at 40's so not going in again. I'm not sure he'll drift out to that price though Carnage!
                                As they say in the m and m adverts….now it all makes sense

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