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2025 Ryanair Chase

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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    12/1 without the NRNB - which is fair enough

    Dan on SSR said he had 2 targets this year, today and Cheltenham (obviously)

    Straight there now
    Great thanks Kev, missed that.
    I like it when they say say straight there.

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    • 'Related double with fact to file probably value also.'

      How are they related ??

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        'Related double with fact to file probably value also.'

        How are they related ??
        Have a think ?

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        • Some NRNB markets have the chance of a favoured horse not running factored in. in fact most do these days.
          However this Ryanair market is harder for them as there are so many doubts as to which of the Mullins horses will turn up.
          If only one of the four turn up then Protektorat is a shorter SP than 10-1.
          If Fact to File doesn't turn up then he is also shorter than 10-1 SP. IMO.
          Even if Fact to File turns up and Il est Francais and one other Mullins horse I don't think 10-1 will be too bad a price.

          So the relation is the value, you'd likely get if Fact to File goes Gold Cup or doesn't run at all.
          This would be increased even further if Galopin does not run in the Gold cup and fact to file does.

          A handy bet if anyone does not have fact to file backed yet and are waiting till the day.
          You might not need to bother if Prot does the business.
          Last edited by Quevega; 19 January 2025, 04:10 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

            Have a think ?
            Nope. Don't get it.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              Nope. Don't get it.
              I know

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                I see you've tried to explain the relationship in your previous post. Nice try. Funny how someone liked my post as well

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  I see you've tried to explain the relationship in your previous post. Nice try. Funny how someone liked my post as well
                  That was me.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                    That was me.

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                      12/1 without the NRNB - which is fair enough

                      Dan on SSR said he had 2 targets this year, today and Cheltenham (obviously)

                      Straight there now
                      Can still get 14s on sky in their without NRNB which looks very fair. Feel he’s one where NRNB cover isn’t a necessity due to his target being very clear.

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                      • Originally posted by UpInTrip View Post

                        Can still get 14s on sky in their without NRNB which looks very fair. Feel he’s one where NRNB cover isn’t a necessity due to his target being very clear.
                        Yeah, completely agree and good spot

                        I can't get on with Sky or I'd cash and take that price

                        He'll be single figures on the day

                        Wil lbe horrified if Fact To File ends up here as well

                        The GDC to win the Irish Gold Cup and F2F for this double is worth considering

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                        • Very nice performance, though I would worry whether today was his race. Skelton's are after the Trainers Title and the David Power Cup thing so appear to be targeting valuable races through the season. Cheltenham is the most valuable but also the hardest to win. You get slightly more money today than for runner up in a Ryanair (According to last years Ryanair figures). He will go to Cheltenham with a shout again, but fearful this will take too much to recover from. Though, on the positive side, he has also been pretty consistent and followed up his 3rd in the Denman Chase last year on heavy ground in February with the Ryanair win. Good luck to him.

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