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2025 Ryanair Chase

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  • Like a carbon copy of last year.
    I was heavy on Protektorat and Conflated, each way.

    Conflated 50-1 ew not daftest bet again, as he's Gigginstown only runner again.
    I took the 1000-1 instead, you never know

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
      Like a carbon copy of last year.
      I was heavy on Protektorat and Conflated, each way.

      Conflated 50-1 ew not daftest bet again, as he's Gigginstown only runner again.
      I took the 1000-1 instead, you never know
      Do you think it's just a quirk of recent history that all the last 11 winners were FRE bred or is it something you'd pay attention to?

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      • Originally posted by That Horse View Post

        Do you think it's just a quirk of recent history that all the last 11 winners were FRE bred or is it something you'd pay attention to?
        Not so much these days, but French breds have dominated certain races over the years. It was something I'd look at but not really on my radar nowadays.
        Actually didn;t know that.
        Most of the big players are though aren;t they in the current market.

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        • So we're all in on the 4/1 NRNB IEF right

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          • Conflated has definitely not been running on his merits.
            Grand National entry shows why.

            You only have to go back 12 months to his 3rd in this race and close 2nd to Jonbon in the Melling.
            He'll be revved up for this race if declared.
            Might be out the back again this weekend though so hold bets and he might be even bigger.

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            • Conflated wins the XCC doesn't he ??

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                Conflated wins the XCC doesn't he ??
                In your world probably

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                • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                  In your world probably

                  Not in my world... Think that was last year's news anyway.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                    Conflated has definitely not been running on his merits.
                    Grand National entry shows why.

                    You only have to go back 12 months to his 3rd in this race and close 2nd to Jonbon in the Melling.
                    He'll be revved up for this race if declared.
                    Might be out the back again this weekend though so hold bets and he might be even bigger.
                    I can't resist that at 50/1 NRNB with cashout

                    and if he's bigger after the weekend I'll go in again

                    Each way obvz

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                    • I don't want to waste time thinking about stuff I hope doesn't happen

                      But I'm considering being forced to take the 6/4 NRNB about Fact To File before the weekend

                      If he ends up here, he'll have been beaten, but won't be pushed out, in fact it's going to be a pretty rubbish situation that he's beaten and may even shorten from as tight as 6/4 already is

                      but



                      He just wins this doesn't he....

                      Main danger - Il Est Francais, and they've actively said they'll avoid him

                      Then it's Gaelic Warrior for the same trainer, and I suppose it'll be a ride Paul Townend needs, but they have met before and FTF murdered GW.

                      Then Banbridge, who they're already talking about going for the Gold Cup, and even more likely with FTF out of the picture?

                      El Fabiolo ... doesn't beat FTF over this trip for me ...

                      Spillane's Tower they probably wouldn't even need to run

                      Protektorat - fine, technically the one to beat but he just would?

                      Energumene - again, could be Paul's ride so at least a rival



                      ....but he goes off odds on if he runs doesn't he?

                      Is 6/4 NRNB value?



                      I'm trying to ignore all the related doubles and combos .... just as a 'shortie'.... he's mustard isn't he? Makes all. Wins?


                      I'm thinking about a spacehopper sized bet

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                      • Not going to happen Kev.

                        Willie wants the 12345 in the Gold Cup. It's already been confirmed

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                          I don't want to waste time thinking about stuff I hope doesn't happen

                          But I'm considering being forced to take the 6/4 NRNB about Fact To File before the weekend

                          If he ends up here, he'll have been beaten, but won't be pushed out, in fact it's going to be a pretty rubbish situation that he's beaten and may even shorten from as tight as 6/4 already is

                          but



                          He just wins this doesn't he....

                          Main danger - Il Est Francais, and they've actively said they'll avoid him

                          Then it's Gaelic Warrior for the same trainer, and I suppose it'll be a ride Paul Townend needs, but they have met before and FTF murdered GW.

                          Then Banbridge, who they're already talking about going for the Gold Cup, and even more likely with FTF out of the picture?

                          El Fabiolo ... doesn't beat FTF over this trip for me ...

                          Spillane's Tower they probably wouldn't even need to run

                          Protektorat - fine, technically the one to beat but he just would?

                          Energumene - again, could be Paul's ride so at least a rival



                          ....but he goes off odds on if he runs doesn't he?

                          Is 6/4 NRNB value?



                          I'm trying to ignore all the related doubles and combos .... just as a 'shortie'.... he's mustard isn't he? Makes all. Wins?


                          I'm thinking about a spacehopper sized bet
                          Wouldn’t you back yourself to get a better ROI on that stake if you used it elsewhere? Or are you falling into the trap of needing to try and win every race?

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                          • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                            Wouldn’t you back yourself to get a better ROI on that stake if you used it elsewhere? Or are you falling into the trap of needing to try and win every race?
                            This bet wouldn't stop me backing elsewhere though, it's not like if I place this bet I can't place others

                            I also don't think trying to win every race is a trap ... 'trying' to do that is definitely the aim


                            It's more that I don't really play the Ryanair ante post for this exact reason, as you get closer to the time and it just looks obvious

                            to me, if Fact To File runs, he wins .... so 6/4 looks a really strong bet?

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                              This bet wouldn't stop me backing elsewhere though, it's not like if I place this bet I can't place others

                              I also don't think trying to win every race is a trap ... 'trying' to do that is definitely the aim


                              It's more that I don't really play the Ryanair ante post for this exact reason, as you get closer to the time and it just looks obvious

                              to me, if Fact To File runs, he wins .... so 6/4 looks a really strong bet?
                              Well it can be a trap if maximising profit is the aim as every bet we place has an opportunity cost….unless we have an unlimited budget of course. But yes in isolation ignoring opportunity cost I think it’s a sound bet

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                              • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                                Well it can be a trap if maximising profit is the aim as every bet we place has an opportunity cost….unless we have an unlimited budget of course. But yes in isolation ignoring opportunity cost I think it’s a sound bet
                                I do almost have an 'unlimited budget' as I use a friends account for the cashout firm, just give him 5% at the end of every festival

                                and the bet I'm considering will be on that account



                                Maximising profit as a book builder probably isn't my aim .... guaranteeing it is .... with the odd, hail mary when I've got a strong opinion, and this one is getting quite strong




                                I need talking down ..... I'm thinking of 100 points on

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