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2025 Ryanair Chase

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Could easily happen. Not backed Energumene but I reckon the WTAF Clarence might be the best bet to get him on board for anyone wanting too.
    Energumene is one I'm willing to let go and if he wins so be it, I'll take it like a man !

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    • Originally posted by Ice View Post

      Energumene is one I'm willing to let go and if he wins so be it, I'll take it like a man !
      Me too. Reckon him and Bon Jovi will go hell for leather and leave their festival races at a Soft ground Ascot.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Me too. Reckon him and Bon Jovi will go hell for leather and leave their festival races at a Soft ground Ascot.
        Both times Energ won the CC he ran in the soft in the Clarence House the run before.
        One of which was at Ascot in the race with Shishkin.

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        • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

          Both times Energ won the CC he ran in the soft in the Clarence House the run before.
          One of which was at Ascot in the race with Shishkin.
          Yep, Shishkin left his race there I remember. Energumene needs deep hock ground to be at his very best. Was really lucky to get it both times he won when the Wednesday was like a swamp.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Yep, Shishkin left his race there I remember. Energumene needs deep hock ground to be at his very best. Was really lucky to get it both times he won when the Wednesday was like a swamp.
            Does he though? or we coming to that conclusion because all he's basically ever ran on is soft going? Familiar with it yes, but does he need it...
            Long bitcoin, long gold, long silver, long g/s opening day Cheltenham Festival

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              Yep, Shishkin left his race there I remember. Energumene needs deep hock ground to be at his very best. Was really lucky to get it both times he won when the Wednesday was like a swamp.
              Maybe, but the fact is he never left his race there, which is my point.

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              • Originally posted by Brooksie View Post

                Does he though? or we coming to that conclusion because all he's basically ever ran on is soft going? Familiar with it yes, but does he need it...
                He didn’t need it when pissing up in an Irish CC on good to yielding .
                I do think he’s better chance on soft as he seems to handle it better than some others?
                But he has proved he’s good on decent ground.

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                • Originally posted by Brooksie View Post

                  Does he though? or we coming to that conclusion because all he's basically ever ran on is soft going? Familiar with it yes, but does he need it...
                  Yes, to be at his very best.

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                  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                    He didn’t need it when pissing up in an Irish CC on good to yielding .
                    I do think he’s better chance on soft as he seems to handle it better than some others?
                    But he has proved he’s good on decent ground.
                    A bit like Bon Jovi and his Cheltenham exploits, he's not quite there at the top table unless it's deep. Very, very good but a few pounds below.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      A bit like Bon Jovi and his Cheltenham exploits, he's not quite there at the top table unless it's deep. Very, very good but a few pounds below.
                      Maybe.Maybe not.
                      Ive said my bit re J and Cheltenham. Not going there again!!

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                      • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                        Maybe.Maybe not.
                        Ive said my bit re J and Cheltenham. Not going there again!!
                        I'm not sure even the posh bloke would have made any difference to his defeats at the Festival.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          I'm not sure even the posh bloke would have made any difference to his defeats at the Festival.
                          Well obviously not the Supreme
                          Not so sure with the Arkle though.
                          But no point in going down that road now.

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                          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                            Well obviously not the Supreme
                            Not so sure with the Arkle though.
                            But no point in going down that road now.
                            No. Fall forward.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              Could easily happen. Not backed Energumene but I reckon the WTAF Clarence might be the best bet to get him on board for anyone wanting too.
                              Not quiet so easily now as J not entered for Ryan
                              Energ is though.
                              Maybe it will happen the other way round?

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                              • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                                Not quiet so easily now as J not entered for Ryan
                                Energ is though.
                                Maybe it will happen the other way round?
                                Hopefully yes!!

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