2025 Champion Hurdle

[Lobos]

I'm not sure she'll definitely run in the Mares yet, but it is part of the reason I cashed one of the bets. It must be under consideration.

Regarding Brighterdaysahead I still think plan A is the Mares. Only reason they switch is if something happens to Constitution Hill, IMO.

Not at all sure with BDA. She's stuffed State Man and now Lossiemouth has had a horrible preparation.Literally anything could happen to CH before or during the race (re last hurdle blunder ).she's also put in the top Hurdlling perform this season.

[Quevega]

It's probably the same (nothings changed except State Mans followers have got their hopes up) as it was when deciding which mare will race in the mares and which in the Champion.

I see only one scenario where Lossiemouth goes for the Mares, and that's if Brighterdaysahead commits to the Champion, and even then they might still give it a go, but would have plenty of excuses if they bottled the 2 year plan ! (fall last time, townend ride, easy race, reigning champ etc)

Unless we get a surprise announcement in the run up to the races, this might be like the hokey fucking cokey on declarations day I reckon.

Lets hope C Hill stays sound otherwise the melt down on here when Gino swaps course will be phenomenal.

[Kevloaf]

It's probably the same (nothings changed except State Mans followers have got their hopes up) as it was when deciding which mare will race in the mares and which in the Champion.

I see only one scenario where Lossiemouth goes for the Mares, and that's if Brighterdaysahead commits to the Champion, and even then they might still give it a go, but would have plenty of excuses if they bottled the 2 year plan ! (fall last time, townend ride, easy race, reigning champ etc)

Unless we get a surprise announcement in the run up to the races, this might be like the hokey fucking cokey on declarations day I reckon.

Lets hope C Hill stays sound otherwise the melt down on here when Gino swaps course will be phenomenal.

Sir Gino would and should be fav, did you not see the racecourse gallop


I think (as has been said), any 'excuse' to not run Lossiemouth kind of disappeared with Willie not saying it straight after - that was the perfect time on the back of a fall

I suppose she could be working poorly like Vautour and 'not even sure to run' kind of thing, before going Mares.... maybe to try and move BDA to the CH?


Over thinking that I think

Day 1 4x odds on shots
KDB
SG
Con Hill
BDA

[Rooster Booster]

Patrick said Lossie is a bit sore and feeling sorry for herself today. The more I’ve seen it the worse it gets. Wouldn’t be the biggest shock if it’s left a little mental scar (at least initially) and ideally you’d want a confidence booster. Not sure you’d choose running against CH for that

[Lobos]

Patrick said Lossie is a bit sore and feeling sorry for herself today. The more I’ve seen it the worse it gets. Wouldn’t be the biggest shock if it’s left a little mental scar (at least initially) and ideally you’d want a confidence booster. Not sure you’d choose running against CH for that

Agree. They have plenty of reasons now to move away from plan A without anyone moaning. I'm big on Lossiemouth for the Churdle but imo she won't be turning up there.

[somer1]

Agree. They have plenty of reasons now to move away from plan A without anyone moaning. I'm big on Lossiemouth for the Churdle but imo she won't be turning up there.

The fall was a shocker. I would put her away for the season and come back to play next.

[archie]

All things being equal in terms of all the potential participants turning up (and being biased by my bets!), I'd have it something like:
Lossiemouth - 80% Champion 20% Mares
Brighterdaysahead - 10% Champion 90% Mares

Absolutely everything hinges on Constitution Hill.

[Ice]

All things being equal in terms of all the potential participants turning up (and being biased by my bets!), I'd have it something like:
Lossiemouth - 80% Champion 20% Mares
Brighterdaysahead - 10% Champion 90% Mares

Absolutely everything hinges on Constitution Hill.

I'm in a similar boat, constitution hill is by far my biggest winner, lossie a decent win but not a penny on BDA, I'm getting a bit nervous now !

[ComplyOrDie]

All things being equal in terms of all the potential participants turning up (and being biased by my bets!), I'd have it something like:
Lossiemouth - 80% Champion 20% Mares
Brighterdaysahead - 10% Champion 90% Mares

Absolutely everything hinges on Constitution Hill.

I think this is how I would have it too.

100% agree about the Constitution Hill factor. Hope he turns up!

[Lobos]

I think this is how I would have it too.

100% agree about the Constitution Hill factor. Hope he turns up!

Have connections ever said they will only go CH if Constitution Hill doesn't turn up ?

BDA has produced the highest RPR this season of the potential Churdle horses so why be scared of CH ?

[ComplyOrDie]

Have connections ever said they will only go CH if Constitution Hill doesn't turn up ?

BDA has produced the highest RPR this season of the potential Churdle horses so why be scared of CH ?

Not that I know of, but they said Mares Hurdle initially. Only Gordon has actually mentioned Champion Hurdle. Owners seemed to want to run in the Mares.

I'm pretty sure Gordon, Eddie & Michael pay little attention to RPR's.

[Kevloaf]

Have connections ever said they will only go CH if Constitution Hill doesn't turn up ?

BDA has produced the highest RPR this season of the potential Churdle horses so why be scared of CH ?

Why be scared of Constitution Hill?




He's a much better horse than literally anything that ever run in the Mares Hurdle, let alone what will run in it this season..... ergo, you must know the answer




....... but I agree, they shouldn't run scared

[Runragged]

Not that I know of, but they said Mares Hurdle initially. Only Gordon has actually mentioned Champion Hurdle. Owners seemed to want to run in the Mares.

I'm pretty sure Gordon, Eddie & Michael pay little attention to RPR's.

One of the O'Leary's said after her win at Xmas that they would have to consider the Champion Hurdle now.

I have it much closer to 50/50 as to BDA going Champion or Mares. I think the ground will play some part and skipping the DRF was a positive for me as to going Champion as they didn't want her to have a hard run before Cheltenham. If they were going Mares and Lossiemouth then goes Champion then BDA would have 20lb in hand currently on RPRs. They could of run her in the Irish Champion and still easily won the Mares even if a stone below her best. They have saved her as they want a 100% performance and is because they are now aiming her at the Champion Hurdle...

[Muswell]

I thought a good hedge for BDA was mares hurdle longest winning distance was 16s

[Kilkenny Cat]

Little surprised nothing has been made of the pace Lossiemouth set at the DRF. She was considered outpaced at Christmas behind Burdett Road over the first mile and a half. She had certainly now been taught to race at a quicker pace and to my eye Statement was starting to race at a pace outside his comfort zone and looked really tired at the end of the race. Provided she has got over her fall she is going to be a proper danger to Constitutional Hill in March.