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2025 Champion Hurdle

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  • Think I’d go Mares now with Lossie ….still young & pressure of CH race after that maybe a concern

    Annouce early & poss forces BDA to think more about Ch Hurdle
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    • Danny apparently fine
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      • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
        Danny apparently fine
        Good news.

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        • Churdle still the plan according to Willie

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          • "I haven’t spoken to Rich but our plan has always been to go for the Champion Hurdle and unless they have a change of heart, I’m happy she can still go for a Champion Hurdle."

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            • I would expect them to stay on track with the Champion Hurdle plan with Lossiemouth. A fall can happen to any horse in any race. She looked to be going great when she came down and Danny was riding her with the confidence she could win. Stick to the plan. And I have zero financial interest in Lossiemouth for either race.

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              • Originally posted by BuckingThe Trend View Post
                I would expect them to stay on track with the Champion Hurdle plan with Lossiemouth. A fall can happen to any horse in any race. She looked to be going great when she came down and Danny was riding her with the confidence she could win. Stick to the plan. And I have zero financial interest in Lossiemouth for either race.
                I didn't think she was travelling all that great. She looked flat again to me. Not confident at all now.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  I didn't think she was travelling all that great. She looked flat again to me. Not confident at all now.
                  I think they’ll err on the side of caution with her and go for whichever the easier option is. Ricci doesn’t exactly have a great hand going into Cheltenham, she’s his only realistic chance of a winner this year..

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                  • I think he will do like he does every year go where Willie says remember vautour

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      I didn't think she was travel2ling all that great. She looked flat again to me. Not confident at all now.
                      Did the timings for the 2 2mile hurdle races yesterday and compared with BDA demo job at Christmas on better ground.

                      They went off pretty quick and then from the 3rd to the fall at the 6th they were flying
                      Hurdle State Man Kopek BDA
                      Soft Soft Good/Yielding
                      1 0.17 0.15 0.23
                      2 0.52 0.52 0.57
                      3 1.07 1.08 1.09
                      4 1.56 2.00 1.55
                      5 2.09 2.14 2.04
                      6 2.20 (Fall) 2.25 2.16
                      7 2.37 2.41 2.31
                      8 3.16 3.16 3.04
                      9 3.48 3.45 3.33
                      Finish 4.06 4.02 3.49

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                      • Originally posted by chunker86 View Post

                        Did the timings for the 2 2mile hurdle races yesterday and compared with BDA demo job at Christmas on better ground.

                        They went off pretty quick and then from the 3rd to the fall at the 6th they were flying
                        Hurdle State Man Kopek BDA
                        Soft Soft Good/Yielding
                        1 0.17 0.15 0.23
                        2 0.52 0.52 0.57
                        3 1.07 1.08 1.09
                        4 1.56 2.00 1.55
                        5 2.09 2.14 2.04
                        6 2.20 (Fall) 2.25 2.16
                        7 2.37 2.41 2.31
                        8 3.16 3.16 3.04
                        9 3.48 3.45 3.33
                        Finish 4.06 4.02 3.49
                        It's a different course don't forget, they change the rails around.

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                        • That's clearly why I thought she wasn't travelling like she can as she was at full throttle. At least we now know she can keep up championship 2m pace .......for at least a mile anyway

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            That's clearly why I thought she wasn't travelling like she can as she was at full throttle. At least we now know she can keep up championship 2m pace .......for at least a mile anyway
                            Yeah, but at what cost? She got so knackered, she fell.

                            This is said tongue in cheek, but Willie had said she doesn't make them mistakes normally, so something must have caused it. It was a real heavy fall too.

                            I've kept one of my E/W bets on her for the race but cashed one of the others today. Champion Hurdle off the back of that fall, is not ideal.

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                            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                              Yeah, but at what cost? She got so knackered, she fell.

                              This is said tongue in cheek, but Willie had said she doesn't make them mistakes normally, so something must have caused it. It was a real heavy fall too.

                              I've kept one of my E/W bets on her for the race but cashed one of the others today. Champion Hurdle off the back of that fall, is not ideal.
                              Oh I agree totally. Her chance has definitely taken a huge knock. I still think she may go Mares. Be good to hear that she's well this morning. Yesterday's race though will surely make it even more tempting to run BDA in the CH. She has one to beat albeit a very good one !

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                Oh I agree totally. Her chance has definitely taken a huge knock. I still think she may go Mares. Be good to hear that she's well this morning. Yesterday's race though will surely make it even more tempting to run BDA in the CH. She has one to beat albeit a very good one !
                                I'm not sure she'll definitely run in the Mares yet, but it is part of the reason I cashed one of the bets. It must be under consideration.

                                Regarding Brighterdaysahead I still think plan A is the Mares. Only reason they switch is if something happens to Constitution Hill, IMO.

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