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2025 Champion Hurdle
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Originally posted by YoungHustler View PostI think Lossiemouth will need to have improved from last season in order to beat Teahupoo, especially as we're uncertain of how tuned up she will be compared to a100% primed Teahupoo, but at least she will have the ground in her favour. I just look back at last years Mares Hurdle, where I don't think Lossiemouth had that much left at the finish whereas I think Teahupoo would have beat that field on the bridle.
Remember, even though it feels like he has been around for a few years now, he is still only 7, so can still show some improvement
Gordon has targeted the Hattons with him the last two years, beating 160 rated hurdles on each occasion, IEP last year and Honeysuckle the year before, so think he should be spot on fitness wise
This race is part of Gordon’s season plan for Teahupoo to win the Stayers again this year, was it Lossiemouths?
It’s a race to savour, but I think Teahupoo is the rightful fav IMO as he been and done it in this particular race before, against quality opposition, whereas Lossiemouth hasn’t beaten a 160 plus rated horse yet
The markets for the Stayers, the CH and the MH may have some significant changes after this weekend !
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I'm certain Lossiemouth will go off fav in the Hattons. Money will pour in for her on the day. Even though she was declared for the Morgianna, this race has always been her target imo. She'll then go to the International again as a prep as that race really suited her last season and will leave her really fresh/fit for the CH. Even if she were to lose to Teahupoo I fully expect them to stick to the plan. Willie has both JDG and Kargesse to go to war with in the Mares which is plenty good enough. I don't expect bookies to push Teahupoo out at all if he gets beat as it'll certainly be no disgrace and probably expected anyway.Last edited by Lobos; 28 November 2024, 11:13 AM.
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Lossiemouth....
"I’m very happy with her. She’ll start off this weekend in the Hatton’s Grace Hurdle and then the International Hurdle at Cheltenham might be a good option for her rather than going to Leopardstown at Christmas. We aren’t thinking about the Mares’ Hurdle for her. The plan for the last two years was to go to the Mares’ Hurdle last season and the Champion Hurdle this season. We’ll keep her apart from State Man until Cheltenham and let them clash there all being well with both. Letting them meet beforehand would take all the fun out of it!"
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….State Man;
“He looked very big to me three weeks ago and I wasn’t sure I’d have him ready for the Morgiana. I would say he went there a bit heavy. Considering that, I thought he ran great. I was delighted that he was able to get himself into the position that he did after the second last, challenging and hitting the front, and he just got a bit tired. That will blow away and cobwebs and put him right for Christmas. He’ll follow the same path as last season.“
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostI'm certain Lossiemouth will go off fav in the Hattons. Money will pour in for her on the day. Even though she was declared for the Morgianna, this race has always been her target imo. She'll then go to the International again as a prep as that race really suited her last season and will leave her really fresh/fit for the CH. Even if she were to lose to Teahupoo I fully expect them to stick to the plan. Willie has both JDG and Kargesse to go to war with in the Mares which is plenty good enough. I don't expect bookies to push Teahupoo out at all if he gets beat as it'll certainly be no disgrace and probably expected anyway.Long bitcoin, long gold, long silver, long g/s opening day Cheltenham Festival
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I think Lossiemouth wins fairly comfortable. She obviously hasn't beaten a horse as good as Teahupoo, but arguably he hasn't beaten one as good as her. Honeysuckle was past it, Klassical Dream needed further, Closutton seem to talk about Lossiemouth more keenly than IEP. She's passed every test so far and I think she'd beat Teahupoo over any trip.
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I'm pleased some of you are brave enough to make a decision on who wins the Hattons Grace, but it's a complete no bet race for me.
I 100% believe it will come down to tactics, at least I can see that being the primary excuse once one of them loses.
I'm really looking forward to it without any financial interest
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Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View PostI'm pleased some of you are brave enough to make a decision on who wins the Hattons Grace, but it's a complete no bet race for me.
I 100% believe it will come down to tactics, at least I can see that being the primary excuse once one of them loses.
I'm really looking forward to it without any financial interest
I'm not sure any tactics would be against Lossiemouth though???
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Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View PostI'm pleased some of you are brave enough to make a decision on who wins the Hattons Grace, but it's a complete no bet race for me.
I 100% believe it will come down to tactics, at least I can see that being the primary excuse once one of them loses.
I'm really looking forward to it without any financial interest
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Originally posted by Wayward Lad View Post
They are both hold up horses aren’t they ?
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I've taken the 50/1 for kargese in the champion hurdle with paddy, think she's overpriced.
There is a world where sir gino hacks up on Saturday and goes favourite for the champion hurdle, in which case I couldnt see the 50s lasting on kargese, having been beaten less than 4l by him at Aintree when the two pulled well clear.
They've voiced concerns about her settling over the mares hurdle trip, so if sir gino does look very impressive and gives her form a boost then you'd think they might fancy a crack at the big one.
There's bigger prices available on the exchange for her but with no cashout, ad i wouldnt be that interested in her if mystical power thumps sir gino.Last edited by riccirich; 28 November 2024, 01:53 PM.
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