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2025 Champion Hurdle

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  • I think the going will be the main decider for me

    heavy, teahupoo
    anything better than soft, Lossiemouth

    going stating ‘yielding’ atm

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    • I'd be very disappointed if Lossiemouth were not able to win. If she doesn't then she's not CH material. No way does Teahupoo win a champion Hurdle.....that's the way I look at it.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        I'd be very disappointed if Lossiemouth were not able to win. If she doesn't then she's not CH material. No way does Teahupoo win a champion Hurdle.....that's the way I look at it.
        Even though it's not the Champion Hurdle trip?

        It's right in the sweet spot, not 2m not 3m, so it will depend how it's run, IMO.

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        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

          Even though it's not the Champion Hurdle trip?

          It's right in the sweet spot, not 2m not 3m, so it will depend how it's run, IMO.
          Nah. She's the Mares Hurdle winner over that distance getting weight. She has to beat him. She's simply got to be better than him imo.

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          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

            Even though it's not the Champion Hurdle trip?

            It's right in the sweet spot, not 2m not 3m, so it will depend how it's run, IMO.
            There is no sweet spot IMO.
            I'd have a champion hurdler beating a stayer over 2m 4f almost all of the time.
            And I think more often than not that she'd beat Teahupoo over 3 miles anyway.

            But I do respect Teahupoo and depending on how the race pans out he could be closer than I imagine in my head.

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              There is no sweet spot IMO.
              I'd have a champion hurdler beating a stayer over 2m 4f almost all of the time.
              And I think more often than not that she'd beat Teahupoo over 3 miles anyway.

              But I do respect Teahupoo and depending on how the race pans out he could be closer than I imagine in my head.
              I'm not so sure. Teahupoo is quick for a Stayer and he has won the last two Hattons Grace so I reckon he will be fit enough to win and this will be his only race before Cheltenham. Teahupoo is my selection.

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              • Willie mentioned tonight that Lossie almost certainly will be kept apart from State Man all the way to Cheltenham.
                Hattons Grace then the International - pencilled in for her.

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                • Lossiemouth vs teauphoo over the mid distance is like boxers fighting at catchweight, well that's how i look at it ! Lossie for me, think she'll be too quick for him but think it'll be close.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                    Willie mentioned tonight that Lossie almost certainly will be kept apart from State Man all the way to Cheltenham.
                    Hattons Grace then the International - pencilled in for her.
                    Perfecto. Exactly how I'd imagined. Cheers Willie!

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                    • …Lossiemouth to go unbeaten is 5-1 with PP.

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                      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        There is no sweet spot IMO.
                        I'd have a champion hurdler beating a stayer over 2m 4f almost all of the time.
                        And I think more often than not that she'd beat Teahupoo over 3 miles anyway.

                        But I do respect Teahupoo and depending on how the race pans out he could be closer than I imagine in my head.
                        I know from past conversations it's not normally something you are bothered about but would the 'Going' affect your opinion on which one should win?

                        I'm not saying Willie would run her on heavy, but hypothetically speaking.

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                        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                          I know from past conversations it's not normally something you are bothered about but would the 'Going' affect your opinion on which one should win?

                          I'm not saying Willie would run her on heavy, but hypothetically speaking.
                          Slightly maybe
                          but she seems to be fine on it and definitely seems to have the strength

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                          • I think Lossiemouth will need to have improved from last season in order to beat Teahupoo, especially as we're uncertain of how tuned up she will be compared to a100% primed Teahupoo, but at least she will have the ground in her favour. I just look back at last years Mares Hurdle, where I don't think Lossiemouth had that much left at the finish whereas I think Teahupoo would have beat that field on the bridle.

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                            • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
                              I think Lossiemouth will need to have improved from last season in order to beat Teahupoo, especially as we're uncertain of how tuned up she will be compared to a100% primed Teahupoo, but at least she will have the ground in her favour. I just look back at last years Mares Hurdle, where I don't think Lossiemouth had that much left at the finish whereas I think Teahupoo would have beat that field on the bridle.
                              How would you price up Teahupoo if Gordon said he was going to target the Champion Hurdle instead ?

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                              • Mystical Power with the Rich Ricci colours on BHA. Mark Walsh riding

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