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2025 Champion Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

    If BDA beats SM again, absolutely she should go CH imo.
    But yes it does seem it won’t happen.
    Not interested in either bet, not my style either one.
    If I was a serious gambler I would probably go for the one I think will win, but I ain’t.
    To add….. if I were looking at a 7/1 shot EW I would look for one that I thought had more chance of winning, and leave her alone.

    You really shouldn't be betting antepost then, because if you cannot see why the following are more of a bet right now then you're in the minority.

    Lossiemouth 7-1 vs odds on shot
    Majborough 9-2 vs odds on shot
    Kargese 12-1 vs odds on shot (I know 2's is available but that's with the Lossie factor)

    The point being that the odds now (on those three) are likely to be shorter come the day, especially if the races were next week (taking out all that may happen in between)
    They are value based on all known form to date.
    And if any of the odds on shots fall away then you're well in

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post


      You really shouldn't be betting antepost then, because if you cannot see why the following are more of a bet right now then you're in the minority.

      Lossiemouth 7-1 vs odds on shot
      Majborough 9-2 vs odds on shot
      Kargese 12-1 vs odds on shot (I know 2's is available but that's with the Lossie factor)

      The point being that the odds now (on those three) are likely to be shorter come the day, especially if the races were next week (taking out all that may happen in between)
      They are value based on all known form to date.
      And if any of the odds on shots fall away then you're well in
      Well I don’t do those bets antepost, so no worries there.
      I never do antepost e/w at less than double figures and even then I have a good think about it.
      I have strict antepost rules for myself and stick to it.

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      • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

        Well I don’t do those bets antepost, so no worries there.
        I never do antepost e/w at less than double figures and even then I have a good think about it.
        I have strict antepost rules for myself and stick to it.
        not talking about each way.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          I think he'll beat her today on the tighter track at leopardstown.
          but
          IF she did win, then I'd say she'll be entered in both and unless C Hill is out of the Champion Hurdle, then they'll go for the mares.
          They're not daft.
          And i've got her at 25-1.
          If Con Hill is a no show though, then they might fancy a crack at Lossie depending on how she goes next time v state man or over here in the international.
          But thats doubtful also.
          Think BDA and Lossiemouth is quiet interesting.
          What do we think about their respective performances over 2m this season?
          Love to see them race over 2m.

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          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

            Think BDA and Lossiemouth is quiet interesting.
            What do we think about their respective performances over 2m this season?
            Love to see them race over 2m.
            I'd love you to price me up in a match bet.

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              not talking about each way.
              Ah ok
              The only one I would be interested in is Kargese.
              I like her form and the price.
              Other two are too short for me antepost.

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                I'd love you to price me up in a match bet.
                Stuff that!!

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                • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                  If BDA beats SM again, absolutely she should go CH imo.
                  But yes it does seem it won’t happen.
                  Not interested in either bet, not my style either one.
                  If I was a serious gambler I would probably go for the one I think will win, but I ain’t.
                  To add….. if I were looking at a 7/1 shot EW I would look for one that I thought had more chance of winning, and leave her alone.
                  You shouldn't always bet the one you think is most likely to win. It's all about price. If you look at the race as of today and think Lossiemouth has a better than 12.5% chance of turning up and winning, and she'll be shorter on the day, then she's value.

                  I say this and I haven't backed her, but there's plenty of reasons to believe she should be shorter than 7/1.

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                  • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                    You shouldn't always bet the one you think is most likely to win. It's all about price. If you look at the race as of today and think Lossiemouth has a better than 12.5% chance of turning up and winning, and she'll be shorter on the day, then she's value.

                    I say this and I haven't backed her, but there's plenty of reasons to believe she should be shorter than 7/1.
                    Yes I understand that, but backing a horse I don’t think will win at 7/1 is not for me.


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                    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                      Yes I understand that, but backing a horse I don’t think will win at 7/1 is not for me.

                      But she is going to win Carnage...

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        But she is going to win Carnage...
                        Well if she does I will be the first to congratulate you
                        my friend

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                        • That last hurdle being out is bound to give BDA the advantage here, I see her as a galloping sort so once she's gets going she's able to maintain the top pace. She isnt the slickest of jumpers, tenancy to jump left so goijng from Punch to Leop should be a further bonus for her. GE has Fils D'oudairies in there, likely to setup the pace, another bonus for BDA who would prefer something to follow aroun

                          At 4.1 on exchanges, I may have a go at getting State Man beat here

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                          • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
                            That last hurdle being out is bound to give BDA the advantage here, I see her as a galloping sort so once she's gets going she's able to maintain the top pace. She isnt the slickest of jumpers, tenancy to jump left so goijng from Punch to Leop should be a further bonus for her. GE has Fils D'oudairies in there, likely to setup the pace, another bonus for BDA who would prefer something to follow aroun

                            At 4.1 on exchanges, I may have a go at getting State Man beat here
                            hurdles back up, hold your bets

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                            • Originally posted by quevega View Post

                              hurdles back up, hold your bets
                              arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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                              • Are they trying to get Stateman back into the County hurdle?

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