2025 Gold Cup

[Quevega]

reads like they much more fancy beating jonbon vs galopin.
they're probably right

[Yosser]

He knows Fact To File is going to the Ryanair and Il Est Francais would set it up perfectly for him

[Lobos]

F2F been pretty strong for this over the last few days. Been clipped in by everyone it seems.

[ComplyOrDie]

F2F been pretty strong for this over the last few days. Been clipped in by everyone it seems.

Really, where?

Exchanges he just keeps getting longer! Last matched at just under 8/1!

Bookmakers there was a very tiny amount of blue latter part of the week but nothing 'strong'!

I was expecting to check prices and see plenty of blue, instead I saw one bit of red

[Lobos]

Really, where?

Exchanges he just keeps getting longer! Last matched at just under 8/1!

Bookmakers there was a very tiny amount of blue latter part of the week but nothing 'strong'!

I was expecting to check prices and see plenty of blue, instead I saw one bit of red

Was blue all across a couple of days ago. There was plenty of 9/2 and 4's about but mostly 7/2 now. Probably down to Gerri no show and EW money perhaps.

[fatherjohn]

kevin blake again says its gold cup for bambridge and indicates if not gold cup then aintree

https://x.com/RoadCheltenham/status/1881960851931795517?s=19

[Eggs]

kevin blake again says its gold cup for bambridge and indicates if not gold cup then aintree

https://x.com/RoadCheltenham/status/...931795517?s=19

….that 33-1 is a thing of the past, generally a best 12-1 now.

[Mighty]

….that 33-1 is a thing of the past, generally a best 12-1 now.

Can’t recall who posted it (was it Q?) but that was a gift, especially with the 365 boost. Of course he may not go due to the ground, but at least I’ve got the value!

[Exar Essay]

Listening to the podcast, it sounds like the Ryanair is a very slim chance. If its good ground, he'll run in the GC. If it's not, he'll wait for Aintree. The only circumstance in which Kevin said he might run in the Ryanair is if its good ground on the Thursday but then incredible rain is predicated on the Thursday night.

[Lobos]

Very good news for our Ryanair fancies !!

[ComplyOrDie]

kevin blake again says its gold cup for bambridge and indicates if not gold cup then aintree

https://x.com/RoadCheltenham/status/...931795517?s=19

Fantastic news, not just for my bets, but for the race as well

Good shout from Quevega

[ComplyOrDie]

Was thinking about this race and the way JP enters his horses, and much has been spoke of Fact To File being a Gold Cup horse (I'm sure mostly from peoples pockets), but the reality is we have the following information:

1.Emmet Mullins has said the plan is the Gold Cup for Corbetts Cross (JP runner)

2. Jimmy Mangan, despite 'targeting the Ryanair' has said he didn't think Spillanes Tower (JP) travelled well over to the UK, "Mangan admitted the travelling to Kempton took a bit out of his stable star", will they travel again?

3. Willie Mullins has reiterated more than once that he thinks it will be difficult for Fact To File to reverse form with Galopin Des Champs

4. Ruby Walsh think Fact To File will be better suited to a Ryanair

Fact To File is entered in both the Ryanair and Gold Cup, but with JP already having a runner in the Gold Cup (Corbetts Cross), assuming he makes it, and potentially not having one in the Ryanair, with doubts over Spillanes Tower travelling again, alongside the trainer and his assistant having views that Fact To File not only won't beat a stablemate, but that he's suited to one race over the other, then rightly or wrongly, surely what is likely to happen is slapping us right in the face, no?

This will no doubt rile up some, namely Kevloaf who has no love for the Ryanair as a race, but from a financial point of view, surely Fact To File just has to be onside for the race, maybe the related double with Galopin, for those that don't already have it?

[Istabraq]

Was thinking about this race and the way JP enters his horses, and much has been spoke of Fact To File being a Gold Cup horse (I'm sure mostly from peoples pockets), but the reality is we have the following information:

1.Emmet Mullins has said the plan is the Gold Cup for Corbetts Cross (JP runner)

2. Jimmy Mangan, despite 'targeting the Ryanair' has said he didn't think Spillanes Tower (JP) travelled well over to the UK, "Mangan admitted the travelling to Kempton took a bit out of his stable star", will they travel again?

3. Willie Mullins has reiterated more than once that he thinks it will be difficult for Fact To File to reverse form with Galopin Des Champs

4. Ruby Walsh think Fact To File will be better suited to a Ryanair

Fact To File is entered in both the Ryanair and Gold Cup, but with JP already having a runner in the Gold Cup (Corbetts Cross), assuming he makes it, and potentially not having one in the Ryanair, with doubts over Spillanes Tower travelling again, alongside the trainer and his assistant having views that Fact To File not only won't beat a stablemate, but that he's suited to one race over the other, then rightly or wrongly, surely what is likely to happen is slapping us right in the face, no?

This will no doubt rile up some, namely Kevloaf who has no love for the Ryanair as a race, but from a financial point of view, surely Fact To File just has to be onside for the race, maybe the related double with Galopin, for those that don't already have it?

If we lived in a world where Galopin Des Champs didn't exist, do we think there would even be a question about his target ?
Plus I'd go back to Betfred and claim my Langer Dan Pipe winnings....

[ComplyOrDie]

If we lived in a world where Galopin Des Champs didn't exist, do we think there would even be a question about his target ?
Plus I'd go back to Betfred and claim my Langer Dan Pipe winnings....

Probably not, no, but he does, thankfully, as he's one of the best staying chasers we've seen.

[Lobos]

The DRF will answer your question COD. I actually believe we'll see a different F2F there and that the Ryanair talk will well and truly be put to bed.