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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    Still think Croke Park is the classier of the Gordon runners. He's comfortably their number 1 BANC horse after today. Still won't be good enough to trouble the top 2 though.
    He’s a non runner I thought?

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    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

      He’s a non runner I thought?

      Wouldn't think so after today

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post


        Wouldn't think so after today
        So all of a sudden GE thinks he stays well enough
        after today??

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Completely disagree. They are a fair way ahead imo. ​​​
          Both things can be true you know. The Mullins horses can be a fair way ahead of the opposition and still be underpriced.

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          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

            So all of a sudden GE thinks he stays well enough
            after today??
            Ignore him. He’s on a Debbie downer because apparently the forum forced him to back BDA under duress even though he knew he was shit and now he has been proved right he’s on a mission to repeat ad nauseum that it’s now a two horse race. Thank fuck he has those two covered that’s all I can say

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            • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
              Elliott said: “Better Days Ahead wasn’t doing a stroke in front. It wasn’t ideal, he needs something to make it. Jordan (Gainford on Three Card Brag) took him along for as long as he could and probably ran a good race in his own right, Jordan’s lad.
              Was apparent LTO too when he ran on against Croke Park once he realised he had something to run alongside.

              Just watched the replay, and maybe it's just me but right after the line it looks as though he goes again once he realises Stellar Story is coming upside.

              Not a great trait to have. He'll not want to get left behind at any point in the BANC otherwise he'll struggle to make up ground having nothing to race with.

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              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                You can look at it two ways I suppose

                Stellar Story surprised them today and booked his place in the BANC, and with a festival win in his pocket he's a worthy challenger to the perceived better horse they have in Better Days Ahead - who still got the job done


                Or, Stellar Story today means Elliott doesn't have something good enough to win in


                History has told us that hurdles form is only part of the answer, so Dancing City in particular shouldn't be written off (I know no-one is) but arguably is he 'too short' ... and we know he's likely to be the stable number 2 on jockey bookings



                It's a very interesting race still - which is great - long live Jack Richards
                Can’t argue with that.

                I like Dancing city as well, just felt it would be premature to right off Stellar Story, who’s a festival winner. You could say Dancing City maybe has more ability, not debating that. Just think it Stellar Story gets his conditions he could have a chance, as per the spud race last year.

                Who makes the running now The Jukebox Man is out. One of WPM’s I’m assuming? Surely PT doesn’t try and make all on Ballyburn.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                  Was apparent LTO too when he ran on against Croke Park once he realised he had something to run alongside.

                  Just watched the replay, and maybe it's just me but right after the line it looks as though he goes again once he realises Stellar Story is coming upside.

                  Not a great trait to have. He'll not want to get left behind at any point in the BANC otherwise he'll struggle to make up ground having nothing to race with.
                  No I noticed it too and it won’t be lost on connections. I suspect they could have run another furlong or more and SS still wouldn’t have got passed. Probably a minority view on here from the posts I’ve read but that’s my personal view.

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                  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                    So all of a sudden GE thinks he stays well enough
                    after today??
                    He stays well enough, thinks it's down to who he thinks is better of the two and ATM it's CP in my view.

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                    • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                      No I noticed it too and it won’t be lost on connections. I suspect they could have run another furlong or more and SS still wouldn’t have got passed. Probably a minority view on here from the posts I’ve read but that’s my personal view.
                      To be honest, I was pretty down beat after the race but having read what Gordon said then watching the race back gave me a little more encouragement than what I took from the original visuals when watching it live.

                      Something to cling on to at least, until he does the same in the BANC

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        He stays well enough, thinks it's down to who he thinks is better of the two and ATM it's CP in my view.
                        That’s contradictory

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                        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                          To be honest, I was pretty down beat after the race but having read what Gordon said then watching the race back gave me a little more encouragement than what I took from the original visuals when watching it live.

                          Something to cling on to at least, until he does the same in the BANC
                          Yeah I wasn’t downbeat at all. Had SS gone by I would have been, but watching live I thought I noticed him pull away again but because the camera angle was not ideal I rewound 3 or 4 times and this confirmed it to me. I think if the camera angle had been sideways on and not behind them I think this would have been noticed more widespread and folks would have concluded that he just dossed in front. It reminded me of F2F and Spillanes but because the camera angle was more informative on that occasion everybody could see more clearly that F2F pulled out more when Spillanes got to his quarters.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            He stays well enough, thinks it's down to who he thinks is better of the two and ATM it's CP in my view.
                            Well GE says he don’t which is really quite important!!
                            And fwiw I agree with him having watched his races

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                            • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                              No I noticed it too and it won’t be lost on connections. I suspect they could have run another furlong or more and SS still wouldn’t have got passed. Probably a minority view on here from the posts I’ve read but that’s my personal view.
                              Minority maybe, but prices have a habit of being kinder in that regard !!
                              Anyway don’t think he was ever going to pass BDA, so agree

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                              • Not sure if couple posts are aimed at me regarding Stellar Story I’ve not even backed him just felt like he possibly had as much chance as Dancing City if conditions were right.

                                Ive not watched the race today but seen the result and most seemed to mention SS coming out better than BDA, I assumed because he was giving 5lbs to his stablemate.

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