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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
    Anyone got a strong feeling which race Farren Glory is going to go in? Id prefer him in the Grand Annual myself but can see the Jack Richards Novice Handicap Chase could appeal to connections more.
    Looks a 2 miler to me.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

      Looks a 2 miler to me.
      Yep, agree.

      Grand Annual all over him, though his jumping needs improving!

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

        Yep, agree.

        Grand Annual all over him, though his jumping needs improving!
        No doubt he'll get further but that race would seem to suit for now.
        And yeah, he'll need to jump better.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          No doubt he'll get further but that race would seem to suit for now.
          And yeah, he'll need to jump better.
          No interest at his current prices though, to be honest, especially the way he's been jumping.

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          • Yeah deffo needs to jump better. And agree he looks a 2 miler. But deffo looks like a Gordy special to me.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              No interest at his current prices though, to be honest, especially the way he's been jumping.
              If you knew he was going to the GA, I think 16/1 is a nice price. 12/1 with the safety blanket or NRNB just not quite big enough

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              • I’d like to see BDA in the longer graded novice chase in a fortnight, rather than DRF. Better test and ground should suit. Might be favourite for BANC when he stuffs the dancing boy

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                • Sorry, meant this weekend at Naas

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                  • Sir Gino to go the Altior route and run in the Game Spirit

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                    • Is Majborough underpriced and overrated?
                      He's beaten the same horses that Mistergif has beaten, yes he did it more convincingly but was it enough to justify his current price?

                      2nd and 3rd from the triumph are hardly looking like they are superstars, yes the current supreme fav was in behind that day, but we know he wasn't there to win realistically, and has he looked a superstar?
                      Storm heart? Bunting - shit. I won't go any further.

                      Mistergif was a 139 rated hurdler who hardly deserved that. 5th in a supreme where not 1 of those above has looked impressive this season, 4th at Aintree behind lookaway (137) and finished his campaign losing to gorgeous Tom, a 135 rated hurdler (128 at time of race) yes he could've improved for a fence but his form and Majborough are too similar for maj to be his price.
                      I liked the way he pulled clear on the run in but what's he beat?

                      Is this really the best of the Irish 2 milers?

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                      • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
                        Is Majborough underpriced and overrated?
                        He's beaten the same horses that Mistergif has beaten, yes he did it more convincingly but was it enough to justify his current price?

                        2nd and 3rd from the triumph are hardly looking like they are superstars, yes the current supreme fav was in behind that day, but we know he wasn't there to win realistically, and has he looked a superstar?
                        Storm heart? Bunting - shit. I won't go any further.

                        Mistergif was a 139 rated hurdler who hardly deserved that. 5th in a supreme where not 1 of those above has looked impressive this season, 4th at Aintree behind lookaway (137) and finished his campaign losing to gorgeous Tom, a 135 rated hurdler (128 at time of race) yes he could've improved for a fence but his form and Majborough are too similar for maj to be his price.
                        I liked the way he pulled clear on the run in but what's he beat?

                        Is this really the best of the Irish 2 milers?
                        Also have to remember that Majborough was getting weight from the other horse which he won't come March.

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                        • Also have to remember it was his fourth racecourse appearance, while Mistergif is up at a lofty 16...

                          I'd be amazed if Majborough isn't Sir Gino's main rival in the Arkle. Always looked a chaser and there's clearly a lot more to come from him.

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                          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                            Also have to remember it was his fourth racecourse appearance, while Mistergif is up at a lofty 16...

                            I'd be amazed if Majborough isn't Sir Gino's main rival in the Arkle. Always looked a chaser and there's clearly a lot more to come from him.
                            I'm sure there is plenty more to come from him, but he hasn't done anything spectacular or what you wouldn't have expected on chase debut.

                            Sir gino won the fighting fifth on 5th racecourse appearance, and on his 6th he put ballyburn away, who's novice hurdle form is miles above anything Majborough beat.

                            Just feels his price is way too low for what he's actually achieved.

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                            • When did Maj become a 3/1 shot?! I'm with you, AaronLad, that's far too short. Ile Atlantique's form is stronger at the moment and he's over twice the price. Should be some clash at the DRF. The Arkle looks a really weak race in behind Sir Gino at the moment. Hopefully something comes out and looks good in the next few weeks

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                              • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
                                Is Majborough underpriced and overrated?
                                He's beaten the same horses that Mistergif has beaten, yes he did it more convincingly but was it enough to justify his current price?

                                2nd and 3rd from the triumph are hardly looking like they are superstars, yes the current supreme fav was in behind that day, but we know he wasn't there to win realistically, and has he looked a superstar?
                                Storm heart? Bunting - shit. I won't go any further.

                                Mistergif was a 139 rated hurdler who hardly deserved that. 5th in a supreme where not 1 of those above has looked impressive this season, 4th at Aintree behind lookaway (137) and finished his campaign losing to gorgeous Tom, a 135 rated hurdler (128 at time of race) yes he could've improved for a fence but his form and Majborough are too similar for maj to be his price.
                                I liked the way he pulled clear on the run in but what's he beat?

                                Is this really the best of the Irish 2 milers?
                                I've not bet him but not sure you can say he's underpriced or overrated.

                                If you were a layer, are you going 4/1+ on him and making him more of an each way price than 3/1. Win only he's slightly above 4/1 on the exchange.

                                If we look at his Triumph, Kargese came out and gave Sir Gino a good race at Aintree and won against the Irish juveniles at Punchestown. We've only seen her once this year when far too keen. Not sure you can write her off at this stage.

                                Salver was beat 6 lengths on his favoured ground at Cheltenham. He has since finished 2nd to a 150 horse by half a length and beat a good yardstick in 3rd. He's at least a 150 horse really. Not bad for a horse finishing 3rd in the Triumph.

                                Nurburgring was 4th and since won the Galway Hurdle easily off 139.

                                Not sure you're going to win many arguments arguing against that Triumph field.

                                He beat Tullyhill and Asian Master very easily. Mistergif won a race where those two completely fell in a hole. What price would you make Majborough against Mistergif? And what price would you make the front 5 in the market for the Arkle right now?

                                Is he the best of the Irish? It appears so but we'll find out in the Irish Arkle when he hopefully takes on Ile Atlantique. Do you think Ile Atlantique should be shorter for his win over Firefox and Inthepocket? Inthepocket hung badly, jumped poorly and had no chance early on. Firefox is average at best. Ile Atlantique hasn't done anything wrong though and his poor novice hurdle form is probably priced into his odds.

                                Leau Du Sud is a handicapper and I can't have him winning an Arkle. Rest have even less of a chance.


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