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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

    I think 2m5f is the limit of where IEP will be able to both travel and use his finishing kick. I’m not convinced he’d be able to do both to the same level over 3m. So I’d be in his camp in the Flogas too.
    Not often Willie comes out and pigeon holes one of his at a certain distance but looks that way with IEP. Agree that he'd not be as effective beyond the mid trip. I'm actually in the Ballyburn camp for the DRF. If Sir Gino is a Banker then Ballyburn should be winning .

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    • I think it’s a race to sit back and watch as it’s an absolute belter! Add in likely Dancing City, Better Days Ahead, Croke Park, Lecky Watson, Champ Kiely too!

      I don’t think Ballyburn has done too much wrong so I’d slightly favour him, just because he couldn’t go 2m pace doesn’t mean he won’t be effective up in trip. His jumping has been absolutely fine, it may come down to who has the best engine turning for home and that kick jumping the last. I’ve always loved Impaire Et Passe as well who has been excellent in both starts thus far. Great race to look forward to.

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      • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post
        I think it’s a race to sit back and watch as it’s an absolute belter! Add in likely Dancing City, Better Days Ahead, Croke Park, Lecky Watson, Champ Kiely too!

        I don’t think Ballyburn has done too much wrong so I’d slightly favour him, just because he couldn’t go 2m pace doesn’t mean he won’t be effective up in trip. His jumping has been absolutely fine, it may come down to who has the best engine turning for home and that kick jumping the last. I’ve always loved Impaire Et Passe as well who has been excellent in both starts thus far. Great race to look forward to.
        Yes. Hopefully Gordon will run his best too and make it a real competitive affair.

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        • Per @AtTheRaces
          , Rebecca Curtis says that HAITI COULEURS is being aimed at the National Hunt Chase.

          "He’s gone up to 135, which puts him on quite a nice mark for the National Hunt Chase and I think we’ve just got to be careful between now and then."

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          • Aye, that DRF race could be a belter. Can also see IEP winning it but I wouldn't fancy him much for the BANC, or anything else coming from this race if he were to win it... Which doesn't leave much other than The Jukebox Man. Might play that double.




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            • 365 has given Transmission a hair cut to 10s from 12s overnight

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              • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
                365 has given Transmission a hair cut to 10s from 12s overnight
                Assume that is NH Chase. Personally think it is the wrong race for the horse and would stand a better chance in the Kim Muir, though can understand why they would rather stick with Novice company.

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                • Originally posted by Runragged View Post

                  Assume that is NH Chase. Personally think it is the wrong race for the horse and would stand a better chance in the Kim Muir, though can understand why they would rather stick with Novice company.
                  Aye I immediately thought Kim Muir after the ride Patrick gave him against fellow amateurs at Cheltenham that day.

                  Was the bet of the weekend with Hyland boosting the form day before.

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                  • Novices have a very good (recent) record in the Kim Muir... Also likely Patrick may have more tempting options from his dad in the NHC than the Kim Muir

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                    • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                      Novices have a very good (recent) record in the Kim Muir... Also likely Patrick may have more tempting options from his dad in the NHC than the Kim Muir
                      Am I wrong in thinking the NHC is not an Amateurs race anymore?

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                      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                        Novices have a very good (recent) record in the Kim Muir... Also likely Patrick may have more tempting options from his dad in the NHC than the Kim Muir
                        Will he ride in the NHC now? It's not an amateur race anymore, so it will count as one of his allotted professional rides. We've seen the sway he holds in the yard - essentially getting second pick where he wants - so he might choose to use his bullets in the Grade Ones rather than a handicap.

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                        • Possibly not. I'd assumed he'd ride in as many races at the festival as he possibly could to be honest. How many professional races is he allowed to ride in for the rest of the season?

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                          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                            Am I wrong in thinking the NHC is not an Amateurs race anymore?
                            They can still ride in it but pros can now as well

                            The same qualification rules apply to the amateurs as far as I know, in terms of amount of winners etc.

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                            • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                              They can still ride in it but pros can now as well

                              The same qualification rules apply to the amateurs as far as I know, in terms of amount of winners etc.
                              Thought so, thanks for confirming

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                              • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                                Possibly not. I'd assumed he'd ride in as many races at the festival as he possibly could to be honest. How many professional races is he allowed to ride in for the rest of the season?
                                21 for a Category C license in Ireland, which is what Patrick holds.
                                Last edited by Exar Essay; Today, 11:00 AM.

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