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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

    Ile atlantique and Firefox jump the last clear who wins?

    Both will be doing all they can to dog it and finish 2nd

    the moral winner of that clash would be the one who doesn't win
    Firefox!!!

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    • Ile atlantique won his first start in bumpers, then lost the other two

      He won his first start over hurdles, then lost the other four

      hes lost every time hes taken on a decent horse, including a defeat by Firefox in bumpers

      To say he's not for me would be an understatement

      Hes as much chance of beating gino as I do imo

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      • ....and I had you as a Atlantique lover FF!

        Get on the IA Arkle train with the rest of the FJ's !!

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          ....and I had you as a Atlantique lover FF!

          Get on the IA Arkle train with the rest of the FJ's !!
          Im not on it either
          im on the 5 year old express!!

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          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

            Im not on it either
            im on the 5 year old express!!
            They just can't win the Arkle at 5 anymore apparently

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              They just can't win the Arkle at 5 anymore apparently
              So I’ve heard !!

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              • There’s one in it this year that could win the CChase
                imo

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                • Originally posted by Birds Nest View Post

                  I really cant understand this plan for IEP, so they,ve decided to go chasing with IEP, giving up another Aintree hurdle worth £140,000 to the winner in order to miss the festival and target a manifesto at aintree worth £67,000 .i dont see the progression here at all for the owners or the horse. Whats the end goal for him? A 3 year plan for a ryanair...jeeez
                  That's well put.....

                  Novice Chasing has to be a route to something bigger and better, if you're a 160 Open Grade 1 Hurdler.

                  Not the Ryanair
                  Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 3 January 2025, 10:16 PM.
                  "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                  • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                    That's well put.....

                    Novice Chasing has to be a route to something bigger and better, if you're a 160 Open Grade 1 Hurdler.

                    Not the Ryanair
                    I think most in here would agree with that but there’s no doubt in my mind there will eventually be a fifth day and the Ryanair will become a new championship race that headlines that day, whenever that day might be, so years from now the Ryanair will be seen as a long term target, not a race for Gold Cup non stayers…

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                    • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                      I think most in here would agree with that but there’s no doubt in my mind there will eventually be a fifth day and the Ryanair will become a new championship race that headlines that day, whenever that day might be, so years from now the Ryanair will be seen as a long term target, not a race for Gold Cup non stayers…
                      There's more chance of whips being banned than NH being strong enough to have a 5 Day Festival at the current time.

                      The Ryanair betting is usually a complete mess because of its well established fallback position for those that believe they can't win the main 2M and 3M2F - the Sprinters and the Stayers Championship Races.

                      Only when a horse like Allaho ended up romping it for the first time, did that races betting establish a shape to it, next time round, with Allaho headed there again.

                      It's the usual mess up again this time round.

                      But it's a well established decent (Cat 2) Grade 1 Festival race, and well worth its place, as a pack shuffler race after the QMCC and Gold Cup main players are established.

                      Long may it remain a Festival Race.
                      Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 3 January 2025, 11:12 PM.
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • Baring in mind Cheltenham isn't the only place with a decent pot a mid distance chase can go Ryanair/ Melling Chase - worth 140k itself - rather than be pigeon holed to a hurdle race that doesn't suit in the CH/Stayers before Aintree

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                        • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                          Baring in mind Cheltenham isn't the only place with a decent pot a mid distance chase can go Ryanair/ Melling Chase - worth 140k itself - rather than be pigeon holed to a hurdle race that doesn't suit in the CH/Stayers before Aintree
                          Yep
                          Pic D’orhy eg has picked up over 800k without running at the festival so proves the point that mid distance chasers can earn good money if placed well

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                          • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                            There's more chance of whips being banned than NH being strong enough to have a 5 Day Festival at the current time.

                            .
                            Solid win double that...

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                              Ile atlantique won his first start in bumpers, then lost the other two

                              He won his first start over hurdles, then lost the other four

                              hes lost every time hes taken on a decent horse, including a defeat by Firefox in bumpers

                              To say he's not for me would be an understatement

                              Hes as much chance of beating gino as I do imo
                              All about the tongue tie... hopefully...

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                              • Had every chance to dog it today.
                                And he did (Firefox)
                                InthePocket looked a difficult ride and was hanging to his left most of the way.

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