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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

    When was the early entries, I've a screenshot of the market on 15th Dec. Entries were prior to that weren't they?
    Entries were very early December. Confirmations were 19th December. So the market should reflect those early entries

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    • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
      Can anyone recall whether Firefox was an early entry in the Faugheen Novice Chase? If anyone has the early entry list that would be appreciated.
      I only screenshotted Leopardstown for some reason 03/12 forgot to do limerick

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      • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

        Entries were very early December. Confirmations were 19th December. So the market should reflect those early entries
        Ballyburn
        Ile Atlantique
        IEP
        BDA
        Croke Park
        Sa Majeste
        Firefox
        Stellar Story
        Mirazur
        Slade Steel
        KOK
        Search for Glory

        Didnt capture anything below that (16/1+)

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        • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

          Ballyburn
          Ile Atlantique
          IEP
          BDA
          Croke Park
          Sa Majeste
          Firefox
          Stellar Story
          Mirazur
          Slade Steel
          KOK
          Search for Glory

          Didnt capture anything below that (16/1+)
          Nope. That’s all I need. Cheers

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          • If Constitution Hill bombs in the Xmas Hurdle would Sir Gino then be switched back to hurdles again as substitute even if he were impressive against Ballyburn???

            Is there a chance that SG runs against Lossiemouth (assume he gets 4yo allowance?) rather than CH as he's race fit and CH would perhaps prefer an easier introduction than giving an in form race fit mare 7lbs ?
            There's other races CH could run in. Relkeel perhaps? International?

            Edit...just seen 4yo no allowance. Question still valid though.
            Last edited by Lobos; 22 December 2024, 03:43 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

              Do you always seem like you’ve come out of the wrong side of the bed?

              Jeez lighten up man.

              I’m merely responding to you that I’d be very surprised if it was anything to do with prize money. Anyway enjoy the rest of your Sunday if you can, crack a smile
              Yep fair enough. When you aren’t enjoying something like you used to it’s time to walk away so appreciate the feedback.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                If Constitution Hill bombs in the Xmas Hurdle would Sir Gino then be switched back to hurdles again as substitute even if he were impressive against Ballyburn???

                Is there a chance that SG runs against Lossiemouth (assume he gets 4yo allowance?) rather than CH as he's race fit and CH would perhaps prefer an easier introduction than giving an in form race fit mare 7lbs ?
                There's other races CH could run in. Relkeel perhaps? International?
                No don’t think there’s any allowance for Sir Gino over hurdles, he’d be giving 7lbs to Lossiemouth mate.

                Certainly that’s how racing post seem to show it. Is it not depending on them winning a certain graded race, which he’s done now having won a Grade 1?

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                • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                  No don’t think there’s any allowance for Sir Gino over hurdles, he’d be giving 7lbs to Lossiemouth mate.

                  Certainly that’s how racing post seem to show it. Is it not depending on them winning a certain graded race, which he’s done now having won a Grade 1?
                  Yeah, just looked it up. Question still applies though. Would Nicky not be better running Sir G? Would he want CH to be proper tested on his first run back in a year after all the issues he's been through? Why not take a softer race.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Yeah, just looked it up. Question still applies though. Would Nicky not be better running Sir G? Would he want CH to be proper tested on his first run back in a year after all the issues he's been through? Why not take a softer race.
                    He's told the world Con Hill is going to the Xmas hurdle

                    He'd be ridiculed if he backed out knowing he's got a race on his hands - and rightly so.

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                    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                      He's told the world Con Hill is going to the Xmas hurdle

                      He'd be ridiculed if he backed out knowing he's got a race on his hands - and rightly so.
                      He doesn't care what people think . He'd always do what's best for the horse. It must be going through his mind. The Relkeel would be a super alternative for him.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        Yeah, just looked it up. Question still applies though. Would Nicky not be better running Sir G? Would he want CH to be proper tested on his first run back in a year after all the issues he's been through? Why not take a softer race.
                        I’d say no, they need to get Constitution Hill to run at any opportunity they can, if he’s fit and ready.

                        If Constitution Hill bombs out in the Xmas Hurdle they may send Sir Gino back over hurdles, that’s what was frustrating me, just make a decision is it chasing or hurdling, not just using him if ‘the star’ horse was right or not.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          He doesn't care what people think . He'd always do what's best for the horse. It must be going through his mind. The Relkeel would be a super alternative for him.
                          A lot goes through that blokes mind nowadays

                          He just expects easy races up until the festival, but even I'd be gobsmacked if he didnt' run him next week, think the owner getting abit sick of it too, told Nicky no more racecourse gallops already

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            Yeah, just looked it up. Question still applies though. Would Nicky not be better running Sir G? Would he want CH to be proper tested on his first run back in a year after all the issues he's been through? Why not take a softer race.
                            I just presumed they were reverting back to the original plan
                            Sir Gino going chasing
                            And CH is on course for Kempton as planned.
                            Never been a mention of any other race for him.
                            If Lossie turns up , she turns up.
                            I think it’s ideal for them to know if they need to switch SG for CH if CH is obviously not the same horse, with enough time before March.
                            Sir Gino could win the Wayward and still go back hurdling if connections are ok with that.

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                            • Cheers guys.

                              As I've said before, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are more twist and turns before race time .

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                              • On Mark Howard's diary page yesterday he says he received news of a high profile novice chaser who is ruled out of the festive season. It will be in his Christmas update who the horse is tomorrow. Anyone heard who it is?. Any guesses?

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