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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

    Gordon said Croke Park was going Limerick - BDA was the one going for Leopardstown
    Change of plan perhaps with IEP going to Limerick?

    Ballyburn out to 11/4 Arkle with Corals/Laddies

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

      Change of plan perhaps with IEP going to Limerick?

      Ballyburn out to 11/4 Arkle with Corals/Laddies
      Is IEP definitely going to Limerick? Willies entered him at 2, 2 1/2 and 3m. Dont think anyone knows anything

      FWIW Better Days Ahead has also shortened for Leopards 3m.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Yes, he thought his debut was the tops didn't he.

        He was very convinced that Impaire Et Passe wouldnt go 3m at Leopardstown as he said Willie just doesn't do that with a horse that has never gone that trip before. Sounds like Ballyburn will go Wayward Lad so IEP can just slot into Faugheen Chase with either High class Hero or QDB or both going the long distance chase.

        Makes sense.
        I’d be surprised if he pitches either of the other horses into a 3m Grade 1 chase with no run this season let alone no run over fences either.

        Would be completely un-WPM-like to do that. Surely of the 3 entered Impaire Et Passé is the most likely to run there.

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        • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

          I’d be surprised if he pitches either of the other horses into a 3m Grade 1 chase with no run this season let alone no run over fences either.

          Would be completely un-WPM-like to do that. Surely of the 3 entered Impaire Et Passé is the most likely to run there.
          I've no idea. Just passing on what Ruby said and he was ultra convincing. He emphasised more the fact that IEP hasn't gone 3m yet and HCH has albeit over Hurdles. QDB not gone 3 but maybe looked more of a stayer than IEP over hurdles ?

          Not really fussed where they run personally .....as long as they run. I know some on here will also bet on the races at Xmas so just passing on Ruby's comments.

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          • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

            Is IEP definitely going to Limerick? Willies entered him at 2, 2 1/2 and 3m. Dont think anyone knows anything

            FWIW Better Days Ahead has also shortened for Leopards 3m.
            No idea Darlo. Don't care !

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              I've no idea. Just passing on what Ruby said and he was ultra convincing. He emphasised more the fact that IEP hasn't gone 3m yet and HCH has albeit over Hurdles. QDB not gone 3 but maybe looked more of a stayer than IEP over hurdles ?

              Not really fussed where they run personally .....as long as they run. I know some on here will also bet on the races at Xmas so just passing on Ruby's comments.
              The problem with Ruby's theory is when does IEP go over 3m then?

              His first try would be at the festival.

              They have to try them out at some point whether that be before or at the festival.

              Fact To File waited until the festival for his first try, albeit he came from a p2p background.

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              • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                FWIW Better Days Ahead has also shortened for Leopards 3m.
                That's taken long enough considering Gordon said he'd be going for that race a couple of days back.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                  The problem with Ruby's theory is when does IEP go over 3m then?

                  His first try would be at the festival.

                  They have to try them out at some point whether that be before or at the festival.

                  Fact To File waited until the festival for his first try, albeit he came from a p2p background.
                  Maybe he won't go 3m if they view him as more an Arkle type. Not worth worrying about COD. Just let it all unfold over Xmas.

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                  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                    That's taken long enough considering Gordon said he'd be going for that race a couple of days back.
                    Very much so

                    He's the value if IEP doesn't go.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      Maybe he won't go 3m if they view him as more an Arkle type. Not worth worrying about COD. Just let it all unfold over Xmas.
                      Absolutely.

                      I don't care which route he takes as long as he ends up in the BANC

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                      • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                        Very much so

                        He's the value if IEP doesn't go.
                        I done the related double of IEP/BDA last night but was slow getting on BDA as a single (thought I had already done it)

                        Just gone in now.

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                        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                          I done the related double of IEP/BDA last night but was slow getting on BDA as a single (thought I had already done it)

                          Just gone in now.
                          I did that same double also

                          4s a piece i think they were

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                          • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                            I did that same double also

                            4s a piece i think they were
                            Yep, that's what I got

                            Still decent value if both Ruby & Gordon are to be believed.

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                            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                              Yep, that's what I got

                              Still decent value if both Ruby & Gordon are to be believed.
                              Brave man believing one of those, let alone both !

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                              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                                I’d be surprised if he pitches either of the other horses into a 3m Grade 1 chase with no run this season let alone no run over fences either.

                                Would be completely un-WPM-like to do that. Surely of the 3 entered Impaire Et Passé is the most likely to run there.
                                I was looking at these races yesterday for some betting opportunities and ended up backing impaire for the faugheen with some risk.
                                I just felt the three mile race looked weak enough for Willie to pitch one of his others in.

                                i also thought Croke park might go faugheen based on the pace he showed last time
                                so if better day’s ahead goes 3 miles then Willie got a slight form line through slade steel and might think one of his could be up to going close first time up.

                                I know full well this could all be bollocks.

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