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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
    Pleasing enough from dancing city. But will Gordon feel that he’s got one or two better ?
    Doubt it but Willie might

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    • I would be happy if Croke Park was. He would be my second highest priced festival winner and probably be banished from all online betting as a consequence

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Doubt it but Willie might
        The second wouldn’t be Gordon’s number one staying novice and he got close enough

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        • If this season is anything like last season a lot of Willie's will improve leaps and bounds for the run.

          And since they had to wait so long for rain that will likely happen

          Remember Ballyburn, Galopin and fact to file all got beat then won easily at the festival

          So just winning from Shannon royale wouldn't concern me. First run your just looking at the jumping for a novice chaser.

          He will likely improve 10lbs+ for the run

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          • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
            Pleasing enough from dancing city. But will Gordon feel that he’s got one or two better ?
            Quiet possibly
            Betterdaysahead impressed me more

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            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
              If this season is anything like last season a lot of Willie's will improve leaps and bounds for the run.

              And since they had to wait so long for rain that will likely happen

              Remember Ballyburn, Galopin and fact to file all got beat then won easily at the festival

              So just winning from Shannon royale wouldn't concern me. First run your just looking at the jumping for a novice chaser.

              He will likely improve 10lbs+ for the run
              Guess that means Olympic man does as well then

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              • I’m on dancing city at 33/1 for the banc and feel rather deflated after watching that in all honesty. He’s just not going to get up that hill at Cheltenham is he. Didn’t get up it last year, had Shannon royal closing today and high class hero closing on his final race last season on a less stiff track. Banc will be a bigger field than last few years so can almost guarantee it’ll be run at a decent clip. It’s going to be a gruelling 3 miles 1/2 furlong and it’s going to take an out and out stayer to win this. Dancing city just doesn’t fit the bill. You can say it’s his 1st run of the season blah blah blah but I’m telling you he’s got little to no chance of winning at the festival. The fact he was cut for the race after is criminal. Give him 3 miles again over a flat track like aintree and I’d be all over him

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                • Originally posted by Studfarm254 View Post
                  I’m on dancing city at 33/1 for the banc and feel rather deflated after watching that in all honesty. He’s just not going to get up that hill at Cheltenham is he. Didn’t get up it last year, had Shannon royal closing today and high class hero closing on his final race last season on a less stiff track. Banc will be a bigger field than last few years so can almost guarantee it’ll be run at a decent clip. It’s going to be a gruelling 3 miles 1/2 furlong and it’s going to take an out and out stayer to win this. Dancing city just doesn’t fit the bill. You can say it’s his 1st run of the season blah blah blah but I’m telling you he’s got little to no chance of winning at the festival. The fact he was cut for the race after is criminal. Give him 3 miles again over a flat track like aintree and I’d be all over him
                  Willie’s usually need run ….he looks good and old course this time so less hill anyway

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                  • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                    Willie’s usually need run ….he looks good and old course this time so less hill anyway
                    yeah and aintree not a quicker track than cheltenham either, although obviously different in terms of undulations.

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                    • I don't get the negativity personally regarding Dancing City today

                      He's beaten a good field, who were all race fit aswell

                      He looked in control at every point of the race and will come on loads like willies will do.

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                      • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                        I don't get the negativity personally regarding Dancing City today

                        He's beaten a good field, who were all race fit aswell

                        He looked in control at every point of the race and will come on loads like willies will do.
                        He also lost his reappearance last season by 18 lengths and got beaten by three card boat in his bumper debut

                        His RPR progression last year was 108 to 128 to 151

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                        • He's certainly one that will improve as the season goes on. Just might get done by something with a turn of foot. The going on the day could change that though.

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                          • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
                            He's certainly one that will improve as the season goes on. Just might get done by something with a turn of foot. The going on the day could change that though.
                            If ballyburn or impaire et passe turn up you'd imagine they'd have too much class for him.

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                              If ballyburn or impaire et passe turn up you'd imagine they'd have too much class for him.
                              Yep. Ballyburn is being aimed at 2m but could all change.

                              I'd prefer IEP over DC if it wasn't a bog and then switch if it was.

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                              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                                If ballyburn or impaire et passe turn up you'd imagine they'd have too much class for him.
                                Crazy stat given I wouldn't disagree with your statement:

                                ​​​​​​Dancing city has won the same number of grade 1s as both ballyburn and Impaire et passe. All have won 3.

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